Hello mark,   
      
   On 05 Jun 15 12:46, mark lewis wrote to Nicholas Boel:   
      
    ml> actually, all three readers, TimED, GoldED and MsgED, use the same chs   
    ml> translation files... if others can't translate as much as golded does,   
    ml> that just means that they don't have the additional chs files and they   
    ml> don't have the config stuff telling them what chs files to use for   
    ml> which translations...   
      
   News to me I suppose. I have MsgEd installed here and all it is provided with    
   is translation tables that only support 128 character translations, not the    
   full 256. That's why I originally went with Golded in the first place.   
      
    NB>> Anyhow, you had mentioned that the STATS echo looks off to you.   
    NB>> In the last 10 messages posted there, when I switch to ter-i14b   
    NB>> and use a 256 glyph font, both of Bill's posts display correctly,   
    NB>> but none of yours do.   
      
    ml> i don't know why... bill is using the same script i am using to   
    ml> generate the traffic graph and the transfer stats chart... the graph   
    ml> uses the single line frame characters and then at least two or three   
    ml> of the box characters for the bars on the graph...   
      
   I didn't convert my golded config fully over to CP437 the last time, as I was    
   in a hurry to leave town. Now I have it converting properly (note the CHRS    
   kludge on this message) and all your stats posts are displaying correctly.   
      
    ml> they are plain CP437 from a CP437 machine...   
      
   Confirmed. They display fine here now.   
      
    ml> i might try that... it seems to be similar to the 437_437, 850_850 and   
    ml> others of the same nature... except that those all contain the upper   
    ml> 256 characters whereas yours doesn't have any at all... hummm...   
      
   That still most likely won't get your line and box drawing characters you're    
   looking for. I have a config here that let's me stick with UTF-8 on my console,   
   but displays CP437 just fine at the moment. I'll verify to make sure everything   
   is in working order and then see what I can do to give you a hand.   
      
    ml> properly... i have just switched this golded script to using those   
    ml> echo escape code you posted... they are the same as being used on T's   
    ml> machine... i also set golded to CP437 which should be seen in the   
    ml> control lines on this post... i went to the stats echo and looked,   
    ml> again, at my graph posting and it looks better but none of the box   
    ml> characters are being shown... only the frame characters... the boxes   
    ml> are being shown as question marks in a white circle and i think that   
    ml> means that there's nothing in the character table in the font for   
    ml> them... that puts me/us back to the damned font mess so i guess i'll   
    ml> have to root around in the ubuntu and/or debian support areas to try   
    ml> to find a font that does pure CP437 with all the proper 256 glyphs...   
      
   You mentioned a couple different approaches already.. so I'm a little confused.   
   Are you using KDE's "Konsole" or an actual gui-less TTY console?   
      
   If the former, setfont may not work in a gui program as I think it's    
   specifically for a gui-less console. You would have to use Konsole's settings    
   for changing the font and/or xorg.conf settings as X handles fonts and    
   character sets differently.   
      
   I don't use X at all here, so while my config seems to work for me it's only in   
   a gui-less environment and utilizes the terminus-fonts package that were    
   installed to /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (via Archlinux's pacman package    
   manager. More than likely a bit different in Kubuntu).   
      
   If you're trying to do all of this in an X environment, what I've been saying    
   may not help you at all. :(   
      
   Regards,   
   Nick   
      
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