03 Jun 15 16:43, you wrote to me:   
      
    NB> Hello mark,   
      
    NB> On 03 Jun 15 16:38, mark lewis wrote to Nicholas Boel:   
      
    ml>> oh! sheesh... nope, that's not doing anything in this editor at all   
    ml>> either :(   
      
    NB> What editor are you using?   
      
   ummm... really? peek at my control lines ;)   
      
    ml>> in fact, no ALT-xxx codes are working :/   
      
    NB> That's odd. Are you sure you have UTF-8 enabled properly?   
      
   i didn't enable anything... this installation is in the same state it comes   
   from the factory in...   
      
    NB>>> Also, if you're interested, I can give you some advice as to how   
    NB>>> to change your "UTF-8 2" to "UTF-8 4" as well. :)   
      
    ml>> yeah, i'd also like to be able to see the single and double line   
    ml>> graphic characters as well as the various block ones, too...   
    ml>> apparently i don't have my translate stuff set up properly... what i'm   
    ml>> using is from the -dev repo in its entirity... i've crossposted this   
    ml>> to the golded echo so we can continue over there :)   
      
    NB> That would be two different beasts entirely. In order for me to see and   
   use   
    NB> as much UTF-8 as possible on here, I have to use a 512 glyph font which   
    NB> remaps the ANSI characters differently. So I don't see any of those unless   
    NB> I convert them using iconv, or use a 256 glyph font, in which case you're   
    NB> not using or seeing as much UTF-8 as possible.   
      
   i see double or triple characters where ""high ascii"" should be appearing...   
   that tells me that this reader is translating them to utf-8... if i don't see   
   those, i see one or more question marks in white circles...   
      
    NB> In either case, Golded itself won't display most of it properly when   
    NB> using UTF-8. It's only when you load up the temp message file in a   
    NB> UTF-8 compatible editor that it will display correctly.   
      
   that doesn't sound right... i shouldn't have to quote the post to see it   
   correctly...   
      
   how can i check what font is being used? this reader shows single and double   
   line borders itself just fine... just none of those in the stats echo are   
   showing properly... that's the main testing area... when that stuff displays   
   properly, then everything else should too...   
      
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