TID: FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523   
   RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes   
   TZUTC: 0100   
   CHRS: CP850 2   
   PID: GED+LNX 1.1.5-b20240306   
   MSGID: 2:280/464 673fb4c1   
   REPLY: 1348.golded@1:154/700 2ba4e9fd   
   Hi Nicholas,   
      
   On 2024-11-21 16:05:45, you wrote to me:   
      
    >>  NB> While they don't seem to show up in Golded (Golded must still   
    >> filter   
    >> this),   
    >>  NB> I'm seeing your SEEN-BYs in every message you post, too. These don't   
    >> look like   
    >>  NB> they start with a CTRL character to be a proper kludge, either.   
      
    >>  NB> Are trying to invalidate these in your Golded config by removing the   
    >> "@" or   
    >>  NB> something?   
      
    >> His seen-bys look fine here? Maybe your reader gets confused when the   
   origin   
    >> line is missing?   
      
    NB> I just got done saying it works fine in Golded, which is what you're   
   using..   
    NB> so it would look fine there.   
      
    NB> Maybe it is my reader, I don't know. It also displays these SEEN-BYs on my   
    NB> BBS, which does indeed know what FTN kludges are, and shouldn't matter if   
    NB> there is an origin line or not.   
      
    NB> I checked in Golded as well, and the "@" (which I think is just a   
   translation   
    NB> of a CTRL character) was missing before all SEEN-BY lines, yet Golded   
   still   
    NB> hides them (which is great for Golded, but my current reader and BBS   
   software   
    NB> is treating it like regular text, because there is no CTRL character   
   before   
    NB> it, as far as I can tell.   
      
   SEEN+BY lines normally don't have a CTRL character in front of them!   
      
    NB> So I can only guess that something is stripping the CTRL character   
    NB> before that specific kludge, as that "@" character is still there on   
    NB> all the other kludges of his message (and I don't see any of those in   
    NB> my reader, either), and it doesn't happen with anyone else that I've   
    NB> read in the past few weeks.   
      
   So I still think the SEEN-BY lines in this case are treated as normal text,   
   because the origin line is missing...   
      
   They will only be treated special if they come after the origin line, which   
   normally is the last readable line in a message, so it triggers your reader,   
   to hide the lines comming after the origin line (my guess).   
      
   Bye, Wilfred.   
      
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