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   Vitaliy Aksyonov to Fabio Bizzi   
   Re: Charcter encoding nightmare. :)   
   09 Mar 24 17:21:00   
   
   REPLY: 2:335/364.1 65ec476c   
   MSGID: 1:104/117 65ecfffc   
   CHRS: KOI8-R 2   
   TZUTC: -0700   
   TID: hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-07-03   
   Hello Fabio.   
      
   09 Mar 24 12:15, you wrote to All:   
      
    FB> the recent discussions on utf-8 on this echo made me the intention to   
    FB> solve the character encoding issues on my point.   
      
   First of all. GoldEd is not designed to work with Unicode. Period.   
   Some people make it kinda work, but I don't recommend it.   
      
    FB> So I'm here to kindly ask you hints about the configuration.   
      
    FB> I run my point on Linux Mint with this configuration:   
      
    FB> bizzi@bizzi:~$ locale   
    FB> LANG=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LANGUAGE=it_IT:en   
    FB> LC_CTYPE="it_IT.UTF-8"   
    FB> LC_NUMERIC=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_TIME=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_COLLATE="it_IT.UTF-8"   
    FB> LC_MONETARY=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_MESSAGES="it_IT.UTF-8"   
    FB> LC_PAPER=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_NAME=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_ADDRESS=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_TELEPHONE=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_MEASUREMENT=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_IDENTIFICATION=it_IT.UTF-8   
    FB> LC_ALL=   
      
   Do not use UTF-8 locale for GoldEd. You shall either use some one-byte charset   
   for GoldEd or run it under luit/screen.   
      
   something like:   
      
   LANG=it_IT.cp850 luit -encoding cp850 gedlnx -C/path/to/your/config   
              ^^^^^________________^^^^^ - those shall be your locale. I'm not   
   sure which one used in Italy.   
      
   or configure you terminal to use that locale and run golded directly without   
   luit.   
      
   luit may be more convenient, because you don't need to mess with terminal   
   settings.   
      
    FB> This is the golded.cfg part for the charcter encoding:   
      
    FB> // Path where the *.ESC and *.CHS files can be found.   
    FB> Xlatpath /home/bizzi/husky/golded/charset/   
      
    FB> XLATCHARSET CP850 UTF-8 850_UTF8.CHS   
      
   This line may work, ant you may even see messages in your Unicode terminal,   
   but see what's happens next...   
      
    FB> XLATCHARSET UTF-8 CP850 UTF8_850.CHS   
      
   GoldEd cannot convert from multibyte encodings. This line is useless. I'm also   
   wondering where did you get UTF8_850.CHS file? It doesn't exist in GoldEd   
   distribution.   
      
    FB> GROUP UTF8   
    FB>         xlatimport utf-8   
      
   xlatimport is used for messages which doesn't have kludge CHRS or CHARSET. And   
   even if then it's useless, because GoldEd can't convert from UTF-8.   
      
    FB>         member utf-8   
    FB>         xlatexport utf-8   
      
   This might work depending on what xlatlocalset you have.   
      
    FB>         origin UTF-8 enthousiast   
    FB> ENDGROUP   
      
    FB> If I start golded from a xfce terminal the accented characters shows   
    FB> as a double "?" with inverted color.   
      
    FB> If I start golded from putty with the ISO-8859-1 charcter encoding I   
    FB> see the correct characters in golded, but all other people see garbage   
    FB> in my messages.   
      
   Most of the European echoes uses cp437. You better set your xlatexport to   
   cp437.   
      
    FB> The golded configuration is taken from a well know article by Michiel   
    FB> van der Vlist : "Training Golded to play UTF-8", so I suppose it   
    FB> should be right. :)   
      
    FB> Any hint? :)   
      
   Don't mess with UTF-8. It's not supported even if it "works" for some. Use   
   one-byte charset and you'll have no issues.   
      
   Vitaliy   
      
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