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|    Michiel van der Vlist to Wilfred van Velzen    |
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|    22 Aug 23 11:08:57    |
      TID: FMail-W32 2.2.0.0       RFC-X-No-Archive: Yes       TZUTC: 0200       CHRS: CP850 2       MSGID: 2:280/5555 64e47ed4       REPLY: 2:280/464 64e376c8       Hello Wilfred,              On Monday August 21 2023 16:33, you wrote to me:               MvdV>> It is no secret that I am not a member of the "more is better"        MvdV>> club. In the POTS age with high cost of data transport        MvdV>> "compressed better" was a valid argument. Although even then in        MvdV>> the end of the compression evolution the added value was so        MvdV>> small that it didn't really matter anymore. Is another one        MvdV>> percent of compression efficiency realy worth it.               WV> It was way more then 1%...              10%? Even if it was 30% it fades away against the increase in speed. I have       seen the modems speeds increase from 300 bps to 30000 bps. A HUNDRED fold       increase! What is a mere 30% better compression compared to that.              Nowadays with speeds measeured in Mbps or even Gbps isntead of kbps itis       completely irrelevant for Fidonet.               MvdV>>>> How many in Amiganet still actually use an Amiga?               WV>>> Enough...               MvdV>> Enough to leep LAH alive?               WV> Yes.              Hmmm...               MvdV>>>> The problem with keeping all these antiquaria, is that you        MvdV>>>> also have to support it. This will become increasingly        MvdV>>>> difficult when the knowledge evaporates...               WV>>> This is true for all of Fidonet technology. Keeping this old        WV>>> techniques working is partly what makes it interesting...               MvdV>> True but at some point one has to make choices that every        MvdV>> museum has to make. What do we keep and what do we drop? I see        MvdV>> little value in keeping more then one compression method alive        MvdV>> for Fidonet. Yes, it is interesting to keep Fidonet alive. But        MvdV>> not ALL of the technology that was ever used. Drop some and        MvdV>> focus on keeping the rest alive.               WV> Well, in this case it doesn't matter what you think. It's what the        WV> AmigaNet users want... ;-)              Good point. ;-)               WV> And in a museum available "real" space is probably a lot more        WV> expensive then available "virtual" space in AmigaNet, which is kind of        WV> limitless...              The virtual space needed to store the museum pieces may be "limitless", it is       certainly not effortless. Once you store a painting in a storage hold, it does       not require much attention any more. It can also easely be retrieved in case       someone wants to see it. Digital data is different. Without the equipment to       read it, it is useless. When storage media become obsolete you have to       transfer the data to a new medium. I no longer have the means to read paper       tape or punch cards. I could probably make pictures of it and have some smart       optical recognition software read it. Floppy disks is more difficult. Compact       disk is even more difficult. Long term storage of digital data is not all that       easy without constant effort and cost...                     Cheers, Michiel              --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303        * Origin: http://www.vlist.eu (2:280/5555)       SEEN-BY: 1/19 123 15/0 16/0 19/37 90/1 103/705 105/81 106/201 123/130       SEEN-BY: 123/131 124/5016 129/305 142/104 153/757 7715 154/10 203/0       SEEN-BY: 218/700 221/0 6 226/30 227/114 229/110 112 113 206 307 317       SEEN-BY: 229/426 428 470 550 664 700 240/1120 5411 5832 5853 266/512       SEEN-BY: 280/464 5003 5006 5555 282/1038 291/111 292/854 8125 301/1       SEEN-BY: 310/31 317/3 320/119 219 319 2119 322/0 757 326/101 341/66       SEEN-BY: 341/234 342/200 396/45 423/120 460/58 633/280 712/848 770/1       SEEN-BY: 2454/119 5019/40 5020/400 5075/35       PATH: 280/5555 464 240/5832 320/219 229/426           |
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