-=> On 08-23-14 20:34, mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-   
      
   Hiua Mark...   
      
    BM> I agree, but from what DM said Synch will convert IF your user #   
    BM> is 1, which I take it you are.  My issue that I am having right   
    BM> now is using SMBUTIL to post a message using those codes and even   
    BM> when I use the fix that DM said to use, the -e1 option, still not   
    BM> working correctly.   
      
    ml> i think what is being missed is that the conversion of the @-codes   
    ml> is not done at posting time but at reading time when the message   
    ml> is displayed to each user... what you are looking for is that the   
    ml> @-codes are interpreted at posting time and the results of the   
    ml> interpretation are posted instead of the actual @-codes...   
    ml> opposite sides of the same fence...   
      
    BM> At the time of the posting using SMBUTIL, the message should have   
    BM> been converted when I read it in the specific echo after it was   
    BM> uploaded when I telnet into the board.   
      
    ml> that's what i'm saying seems to be misunderstood... if #1 posts the   
    ml> message then everyone will see the @-codes converted /when they view   
    ml> the message/... in other words, the raw message contents still contain   
    ml> the @-codes and not the results which are only translated into place   
    ml> when the message is viewed...   
      
   Yes, everyone should see the converted message and you are also correct the raw   
   txt message contains the @-codes.     
      
    ml> maybe you might have to write a conversion tool to convert the   
    ml> codes before posting as you are desiring?? basically a template   
    ml> interpreter that generates the finalized text file that smbutil   
    ml> will post...   
      
    BM> According to Rob, the -e1 switch will do the conversion being it   
    BM> stipulates that I am the sysop.  No other user has that option.   
      
    ml> i haven't been able to read it like that... have you been able to post   
    ml> your test message to a local area and have the code converted as you   
    ml> desire? if yes, then go look at the raw message file for that area and   
    ml> see if the actual @-codes are still in the message or if they have been   
    ml> converted... i'm willing to bet a beer that the @-codes are still in   
    ml> the raw message and that sync does the conversion/translation when the   
    ml> message is viewed... that's just the way i've been understanding   
    ml> everything i've been reading in this topic...   
      
   He just added the explaination to the wiki regarding the -e1 option the other   
   evening after I brought this to his attention. Synch will only translate the   
   raw @-codes for user #1 and no other.  Using SMBUTIL, according to Rob, I   
   should be able to import a message into any sub I am doing now for NHL rules   
   and the bbs ad.  Neither of those use the @-codes and everything works out   
   wonderful.  Now, to import a message using the @-codes, I must tell SMBUTIL I   
   am #1 (the -e1 option).  This is what is not working.  I want to try one more   
   thing with with the header and see if that works.   
      
    ml> i can also understand why posting it in other message areas to appear   
    ml> on other bbses won't work since their user#1 is different than the one   
    ml> on your system... that also points to the translation being done at   
    ml> view time... you'll probably see the same results if you post it to a   
    ml> dovenet area... it might read fine on your system since your user#1   
    ml> posted it but on everyone else's system it would show the @-codes...   
      
   Not according to Rob.  Translation is done by SMBUTIL and will post the   
   information that corresponds with each partiular @-code.   
      
    ml> as above, i think what you are trying to do will end up with a template   
    ml> containing the @-codes which will be processed by a tool which will   
    ml> output a text file with the codes translated to the info you desire and   
    ml> that text file will then be posted by your posting tool...   
      
   Which is exactly what SMBUTIL is supposed to do... :)   
      
      
   Thanks for the input.   
      
      
   Bill   
      
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