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   Hello Michiel!   
      
   ** On Monday 17.01.22 - 10:32, you wrote to me:   
      
    M> The principle of "the burden of proof is on the one making   
    M> the claim" is used in science. That is where I come from.   
      
   My understanding of "burden of proof" (BOP) is that it only     
   comes into play when the claim is of an accusatory nature: in a     
   dispute.  Same thing applies when filing insurance claims,     
   criminal claims, etc..  All of those types have a root damage     
   associated with the claim.  Sean's claim does not encompass     
   damages or harm.   
      
   Sean's claim was not a dispute. It was a statement.  Your     
   response was accusatory (possibly harmful to character) that     
   his statement was false, thus the burden was on you.   
      
   HOWEVER, I read that BOP can also apply in science where a     
   certain claim is made, and thus the BOP is on the scientist.      
   But I doubt that BOP is an issue unless the scientist ends up     
   in litigation, where a harm is associated with the claim.   
      
   This echo transfer matter issue is far from a harmful nature.     
   And, as I pointed it out it is very easy for Janis to have     
   communicated the necessary password for elist purposes.      
   Occam's razor comes to mind.  ;)  No need to delve into complex     
   theories of foul play. That's much more complicated.   
      
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