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   -=> Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 08-09-19  01:47 <=-   
      
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    JK>> 10 minutes.. he'll probably have to have surgery or an injection of   
    JK>> steroids in his spine to get some relief..   
    NB>> Oh, dear.... Another option might be to get pressure point injections   
    NB>> beside the spine... I was caring a few years ago for someone that   
    NB>> already had been getting too many steroid injections in her knees,   
    NB>> hips and shoulders for the doc to want to give any into her spine, and   
      
    DS> What is meant by pressure point injections?    
      
   Actually, they are also refered to as dry needle 'injections'... (it   
   comes back to me as I type about it)... very much related to   
   acupuncture, but using the sort of needles that are usually used for   
   injections....    
      
    DS> I have gotten steroid injections, guided to the spot by xray.  That   
    DS> doctor told me that at my age, there was not really any limit to how   
    DS> many I could have -- but that for younger people (55 or so?) they   
    DS> would limit the number and/or frequency of injections.   
      
   MJ was in her later 50's at the time, but had been getting the steroids   
   for quite a few years already in the joints... we were going in every 6   
   weeks or so, and getting at least two injections each visit (left knee   
   and right shoulder, right hip and left shoulder, etc... whichever was   
   the worst at the time, but trying to rotate it between the 6 sites...)    
   But that really was too much steroids to be getting, and they did look   
   for some alternatives for those shots, too... Voltaren cream for the   
   shoulders and hips, and some other sort of injection for the knees....   
      
    DS> I can say that they gave me very good temporary relief -- two to three   
    DS> months, but eventually the back pain in lower back returned, albeit   
    DS> never so bad that it was not manageable.   
      
   They'd work well for MJ, too, often faster than average, but always   
   would wear off eventually....   My mom was getting the steroid shots in   
   her hands for arthritis... they worked well for her, and she'd go more   
   like 6 months often without needing an update....    
      
   ttyl        neb   
      
   ... Who is at fault here? Can we sue somebody about this for millions?   
      
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