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   Alexander Koryagin to Anton Shepelev:   
      
   AS>> Wouldn't open for me even 128-tailed FireFox (115.31.0esr),   
   AS>> not to mention such decent browsers as Dillo[1] or   
   AS>> Kristall[2].  JavaS'creep to blame!   
      
   AK> Hmm. It is a well known "Vkontakte" messenger and video is   
   AK> there.   
      
   Yes, I know.   
      
   AK> Maybe, if you tried to see it at your office you could meet   
   AK> the messenger blocking -- a very usual policy now in many   
   AK> offices, at least in Russia now.   
      
   Nope -- my employer does not employ any such blocking.  The   
   problem is that these "apps"[1] are what I call web-trash,   
   authored by web-destroyers.  They only work in major browsers,   
   and even then stop working as soon as you skip a few updates   
   -- the proverbial upgrade treadmill!  There is total and   
   universal abuse of Javas'Creep, and I am thankful to websites   
   that raise awareness of it, e.g.:   
      
                  
      
   In the way of messengers, I should consider IRC (+ZNC),   
   deltachat, and mailing lists (e.g. GNU Mailman2). Failing those,   
   there are "contemporary" solutions, such as the XMPP protocol.   
      
   For privacy and anonymity, I recommend:   
      
   GNUPG  :  and   
   OmniMix:    
      
   There are builds of GPG that still work on my Windows XP,   
   and my mail client (Sylpheed) has excellent integration   
   with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.9 (Gpg4win 1.1.4) . Omnimix supports   
   Windows XP as well.   
      
   AK> You can try Tor browser -- it still allows watch what you   
   AK> like to.   
      
   Yes, I am using it with some bridges I recevied in response to   
   an e-mail to bridges@torproject.org .  But then again, this Tor   
   Browser is based on Firefox, so it is not updating on older   
   versions of Windows, even post-XP.  I am also using SOCKS5   
   proxies with browsers, e-mail, IRC, and Usenet clients, because   
   our blessed govt. are blocking or throttling all my IRC, NNTP,   
   SSH, and IMAP connections (except Gmail!).   
      
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