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|    Gleb Hlebov to Alexander Koryagin    |
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|    24 Dec 24 16:51:20    |
      REPLY: 2:221/360.0 67690214       MSGID: 2:5023/24.4222 676aae50       CHRS: CP866 2       Hi Alexander,              Mon 23 Dec 2024 at 08:24, you wrote to me:               AK>>> Just look in the Longman dictionary - it says bluntly -        AK>>> wall is a countable noun.        GH>> Here we go again. "Pie" or "Cake" are countable nouns as well,        GH>> but we're also free to say        GH>> "I want Cherry Pie", or,        GH>> "For Gods' sake, how can you not love Cake?"        AK> Well, let's treat "wall" as "cake". Although, if we again look into        AK> Longman dictionary we'll see that it says bluntly that pie /paɪ/ noun        AK> [uncountable and countable] ;)              Do you own a paper copy? I can't open the website at the moment.              Again, as you may surmise, using articles is tricky. It's kind of a "fuzzy"       subject for those with different language backgrounds. I believe even French       and Deutsch have some differences in this regard with English, let alone       Russian (or even some more "exotic" ones).              I'd say that you rely too much on dictionaries and try to over-formalise your       approach to language learning, while in real life, in fiction, n       wspapers/magazines, talk shows etc., it may at times look a bit different.              In our case I'd say it's an "object vs. substance" thing.       Here are some instances from a website I find suitable:              "Brick" as substance/material:               "Drilling into brick is a key DIY skill, needed for all kinds of home        improvement projects." ...               "You'll require a masonry drill bit for drilling into brick." ...               "If you're drilling into a softer brick and don't need to        make too deep a hole, you may..." -- wait... it's no longer the same        substance here, neither a flaw in the brickwork but a "different        kind of brick material".               "Hold your drill straight and level when drilling into brick(1) - some        drills come with spirit levels built-in. Starting slowly, drill into        the brick(2), pushing the drill towards the wall." -- okay, (1) is a        "brick as generalised material"; (2) is the "stuff" that you're now        interacting with physically.              I hope it makes sense (no big deal if it doesn't though).               AK> The Great Chinese wall is "wall" or "a wall" if I approach to it?              It can only be referred to as THE Wall, given its singular and unique nature       (the same as the Moon, the Earth's only natural satellite). No other options       here. :-)                     ... Error #010: Illegal error. Do not get this error       --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5        * Origin: Microsuxx, Inc. (2:5023/24.4222)       SEEN-BY: 50/109 105/81 106/201 128/187 129/305 153/7715 218/700 221/1       SEEN-BY: 221/6 226/30 227/114 229/110 114 206 300 317 426 428 470       SEEN-BY: 229/664 700 705 240/1120 266/512 282/1038 291/111 301/1 113       SEEN-BY: 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45 450/1024 460/58 256 1124 5858       SEEN-BY: 463/68 467/888 712/848 902/26 5000/111 5005/49 5015/42 46       SEEN-BY: 5015/255 5020/400 570 715 830 846 1042 4441 8912 5022/2 5023/12       SEEN-BY: 5023/24 5030/49 5034/13 5053/51 58 400 5054/30 5058/104 5060/900       SEEN-BY: 5061/15 133 5075/35 128 5083/1 444 6035/3       PATH: 5023/24 5020/715 1042 301/1 460/58 229/426           |
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