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   Message 4,151 of 4,347   
   Ardith Hinton to Mike Powell   
   PYGMALION   
   28 Aug 24 22:57:02   
   
   MSGID: 1:153/716.0 6cfe56c0   
   REPLY: 2151.englisht@1:2320/105 2b1a228f   
   CHRS: IBMPC 2   
   Hi, Mike!  Recently you wrote in a message to ALEXANDER KORYAGIN:   
      
   ak>  -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   ak>       When I was a poor man and had a solicitor once when   
   ak>  they found a pram in the dust cart, he got me off, and got   
   ak>  shut of me and got me shut of him as quick as he could.   
   ak>  ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
   ak>  What is the pram pram in the dust cart? What does he mean?   
      
   MP>  Pram   
      
             Short for "perambulator"...   
      
      
   MP>  is a "British" word for a baby carriage or stroller, i.e.   
   MP>  something you lay or sit a baby in which has wheels so   
   MP>  you can push it around while you walk behind it.   
      
             Yes.  In my experience, however, the traditional English pram has   
   coil springs with large wheels & probably cost more than Doolittle could   
   afford.  :-)   
      
      
   MP>  Dust cart I believe is a rubbish or trash bin,   
      
              That's my take on it.  IIRC Eliza's father was a dustman... i.e.   
   what Canadians might also refer to as a garbage collector.   
      
      
   MP>  likely also with wheels.   
      
              YMMV, but my initial experience with such things occurred 20-30   
   years ago when the City of Vancouver started using them.  It would be my guess   
   that at the time of writing the dust cart was the equivalent of a garbage   
   truck.   
      
      
   MP>  I don't understand how throwing an old pram out in the   
   MP>  in the garbage would get a person into legal trouble.   
      
              I reckon that if someone with more $$$ than sense put it out with   
   the garbage or ordered a servant to get rid of it & Eliza's father took   
   advantage of the situation others might believe he'd stolen this item.   
      
              While I don't know what the laws WRT such matters were in England   
   100 years ago, the citizens of Vancouver are required to place their garbage   
   on city property when they want it to be collected... after which the city is   
   deemed to be the rightful owner.  But the garbage & recycling crews around   
   here are fussy about what they'll accept, and others often take advantage   
   after midnight.  :-Q   
      
      
      
      
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