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|    Alexander Koryagin to Ed Vance    |
|    Grammar in the Bar    |
|    28 Jun 24 17:21:58    |
      MSGID: 2:221/6.0 667ec6fe       REPLY: 2136.englisht@1:2320/105 2ae2c2bc       PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 kco 20240505       NOTE: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101       Thunderbird/31.7.0       CHRS: LATIN-1 2       TZUTC: 0300       TID: hpt/lnx 1.9 2024-03-02              Hi, Ed Vance!       I read your message from 27.06.2024 15:25               AH>> It's a matter of style, not an absolute requirement, and some        AH>> people recommend using it only when it's needed to avoid        AH>> confusion: Through the window I saw John, a basketball player and        AH>> a friend of mine. What is this friend's name, and is he a        AH>> basketball player? I have no idea. I found the example in        AH>> Wikipedia... I didn't personally invent it. I asked for coffee        AH>> with a breakfast of pancakes, bacon & eggs, hot buttered toast and        AH>> hash brown potatoes. At 5WPM I can type an added comma without        AH>> having to fret about whether someone from ElseWhere will think I        AH>> buttered the hash browns *after* they were cooked. For me it's        AH>> easier to use the Oxford comma routinely in such a list than to go        AH>> into detail about why buttering such things on the plate may not        AH>> work. If Denis asks I'll do the latter, but other folks may not        AH>> care.: - Q BTW, here's a joke Dallas found shortly before your        AH>> message arrived: I like cooking my family and my pets. -- commas        AH>> save lives I suppose you could in many cases. But as Anton says,        AH>> in English it is generally considered desirable to avoid        AH>> unnecessary verbiage.... [chuckle].               EV> When I read Dallas's joke I thought about the phrase: "Love your        EV> kids but belt them in the car."              You can note, however, that when you speak such things you cannot put a comma       at all. ;-)               EV> Hmmm, should I had put a period after the ending quote mark?              I read that in the British English they put such a comma outside the quotation       marks, but in the American English they are inside.              Bye, Ed!       Alexander Koryagin       english_tutor 2024              ---         * Origin: news://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)       SEEN-BY: 10/0 1 90/1 102/401 103/1 705 105/81 106/201 124/5016 128/260       SEEN-BY: 129/305 153/757 7715 154/10 214/22 218/0 1 215 601 700 720       SEEN-BY: 218/840 850 860 870 880 930 221/1 6 360 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/112 113 206 300 317 426 428 470 664 700 240/1120 266/512       SEEN-BY: 282/1038 291/111 301/1 113 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66       SEEN-BY: 341/234 342/200 396/45 460/58 712/848 5020/400 1042 5075/35       PATH: 221/6 301/1 218/700 229/426           |
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