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   Anton Shepelev to Gleb Hlebov   
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   28 Nov 23 11:29:02   
   
   MSGID: 2:221/6.0 6565b2dc   
   REPLY: 2:221/1.0 65645c16   
   PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 3.0 20231126   
   NOTE: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32).   
   CHRS: CP437 2   
   TZUTC: 0200   
   Gleb Hlebov to Anton Shepelev:   
      
   AS>> but why are you not hard-wrapping your text at 72   
   AS>> charachters per line or thereabout?   
   GH>   
   GH> I don't know if there's even a strict rule or guideline   
   GH> that prescribes to do so.   
      
   I believer FidoNet follows the convensions for BBS, Usenet,   
   and e-mail, where text should be hard-wrapped to about 72   
   characters per line, because the standard does not require   
   client programs to support any wrapping on the receiving end   
   while displaying articles.  Those who need wrapping shall   
   use format=lowed:   
      
              https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2646   
      
   which is essentially the same hard-wrapped text but an extra   
   space at the end of each line to indicate that clients /may/   
   rewrap it if the support it, but they are not required to do   
   so, because the format is backwards-compatible and still   
   usable in classic readers that display text as is.  Simply   
   using one line per paragraph is non-standard and wrong.   
      
   I for one invariable use hard-wrapped text because it is   
   beautiful, device-independent, and widely supported by   
   clients and text editors. It guarrantees my text looks the   
   way I wrote it.   
      
   GH> Or is there something in FTSC conventions addressing   
   GH> this?   
      
   I will have to look it up.   
      
   GH> I recently asked about this "issue" in ru.golded and a   
   GH> few people told me it wouldn't be a good idea to hard-   
   GH> wrap lines to a fixed value, and there's no such option   
   GH> in GoldED's config either.   
      
   Do they say one line per paragraph has been the FidoNet   
   convention back from 1980s?  It doubt it can be true,   
   because the rest of the world relied on hard-wrapped text   
   for all communication.   
      
   GH> I know that Vim can do it (as I type this text) and this   
   GH> is what I thought GoldED was capable of doing as well.   
      
   Vim is in fact specifically /designed/ to work with with   
   hard-wrapped text, whereas configuring it for soft wrapping   
   takes extra effort and even then is not as comfortable.   
      
   GH> If you can set up your news reader to do the same it   
   GH> would solve the issue with extra-long lines.   
      
   My newsreader is already wrappeing long lines, but it does   
   not help.  They are too wide, forcing me to squeeze the   
   window to get a comfortable line length.   
      
   GH>>> BTW is it okay to use "hang around" without seeming a   
   GH>>> bit too "informal", or should I have said "stay"? :-)   
      
   AS>> Surely /to hang around/ is informal unless the speaker   
   AS>> be a bat or a sloth (the three-toed variety).   
      
   GH> Oh, you be too smart. :-) Snakes can also hang upside   
   GH> down, and some monkeys, and possums too.   
      
   Sure, but those other critters are not the hang-around   
   types.   
      
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