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|    Anton Shepelev to Ardith Hinton    |
|    Suit    |
|    03 Jan 23 13:50:54    |
      MSGID: 2:221/6.0 63b4169a       REPLY: 1:153/716.0 3aceeee4       PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 1.3 20230101       EID: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; i686-pc-mingw32).       CHRS: CP437 2       TZUTC: 0200       BBSID: KCO       TID: hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-07-03       Ardith Hinton to Anton Shepelev:              AS>> I think `suit' there denotes general perseverence in an       AS>> effort, but the dict.org begs to differ:       AH> According to THE FREE DICTIONARY, this term may refer       AH> either to card games or to a highly developed       AH> characteristic/talent/skill. Dict.org says it may refer       AH> to a person's best asset & uses neatness as an example.              Indeed: I saw that boring, if not ill, example while writing       the my previous post. It says: "Neatness is not his strong       suit". But neatness is a passive quality, not requiring       creativity, courage, fortitude, or vigour. Characterising       it as a "suit" devaluates the word!              AH> The second alternative is more figurative... but I think       AH> you were on the right track when you mentioned       AH> perseverance WRT Alexander's citation.              But I dislike that citation on the same ground as the       dict.org exmaple. A suit of a man to a maid (whence       `suitor') is more to my taste.              AH> No matter what talents an individual was born with, they       AH> may be improved by hard work & perseverance.              I quote the above for the fun of mentioning my surprise upon       initiaal misreading of `improved' as `removed'.              AH> We could also say neatness isn't a person's forte, using       AH> the term as it's used in music to refer to strength (but       AH> not necessarily to volume). :-)              I believe `forte' refers to the attack of the sound rather       than to its volume -- a term I know not from music but from       electroacoustics. Yours is a fine point in both senses. It       leads to many interesting insights and contrasts: Imagine a       fast-rocking song with minor chords (example upon request!),       a naturally bright color (Yellow, Cyan) in a low tone.                     P.S.: I offer my warmest compliments on the coming of the        New Year and the going of the Old one. Has anything        changed, except the snow in the streets is not last        year's?              P.P.S.: I see you indent the first line of your paragraphs        by nine spaces, which may be a typewriter        convention. But they having no line breaks, each        one is essentially a very long single line, whose        proper display depends on whether and how the client        software re-flows it to screen width. I therefore        propose another step towards the typewriter        canon -- breaking lines at a readable lenght, which        is usually between sixty-five and seventy two        characters.              ---         * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 90/1 92/1 103/705 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131       SEEN-BY: 129/305 153/7715 154/10 218/700 221/1 6 226/30 227/114 229/110       SEEN-BY: 229/111 112 113 114 206 307 317 424 426 428 470 664 700 240/1120       SEEN-BY: 266/512 282/1038 301/1 113 317/3 320/219 322/757 335/364       SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 342/200 396/45 460/58 633/267 712/620 848 770/1       SEEN-BY: 4500/1 5020/1042       PATH: 221/6 301/1 712/848 229/426           |
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