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|    Alexander Koryagin to Ardith Hinton    |
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|    05 Feb 22 16:58:52    |
      MSGID: 2:221/6.0 61fe90aa       REPLY: 1:153/716.0 1fdffb40       PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 1.3 20211225       EID: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101       Thunderbird/31.7.0.       CHRS: LATIN-1 2       TZUTC: 0200       TID: hpt/lnx 1.9 2022-01-30              Hi, Ardith Hinton - Alexander Koryagin!       I read your message from 05.02.2022 01:26               AK>> Is "the" in "Bill Clinton, the President of United States of        AK>> America" correct?               AH> The article is optional with words like "president".               AH> The definite article is required in "The United States of America"        AH> because that is the official name of the country. In the common        AH> parlance we often say "the US" or something similar... i.e.        AH> retaining the article. "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and        AH> Northern Ireland" is treated in the same manner. Colloquially, we        AH> often refer to it as "the UK".               AH> WRT official titles like "President of the United States", or        AH> even "former President of the United States", the article may be        AH> left out. Among Fidonetters this title may be abbreviated as "the        AH> POTUS". But AFAIK none of them are journalists, who say things        AH> like "US President Joe Biden". In such cases they are using the        AH> abbreviated name of the country as an adjective. I can't think of        AH> anybody else, however, who would actually say that... [grin].               AH> In case my last paragraph left you & others a bit confused, I will        AH> share with you my own experience as an actress in an elementary        AH> school play. Years ago, when only formal English was allowed in the        AH> classroom, one of the lines I memorized was "I'm So-and-So,        AH> president of the Ladies' Flower Club." IOW... I regard this usage        AH> as well established & therefore have no objection when others        AH> employ it in reference to some author, movie director, etc.              If I were invented English rules, I put it simpler. The article "the" can be       omitted if you are sure that the thing or person, you are speaking about, is       unique in general. In other words -- we don't need "the" before "author" from       my example because the author of a particular book is unique as a rule. The       same with American president, prime minister, head master.              So: I went to school to meet with headmaster. Capital of the US is Washington.       Composer of "Moon sonata" is Beethoven. After school I went home. Head is part       of body.              Are there any examples how to disprove my rule?       -)              Bye, Ardith!       Alexander Koryagin       english_tutor 2022       ---         * Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 30/0 90/1 103/705 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131       SEEN-BY: 129/305 330 331 153/7715 154/10 218/700 221/1 6 226/30 227/114       SEEN-BY: 229/110 206 317 424 426 664 700 240/1120 5832 266/512 282/1038       SEEN-BY: 301/0 1 101 113 317/3 320/219 322/757 335/364 341/66 342/200       SEEN-BY: 396/45 460/58 712/848 920/1 4500/1 5020/1042 5058/104       PATH: 221/6 301/1 229/426           |
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