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   Hi, Ardith Hinton! -> Alexander Koryagin   
   I read your message from 20.01.2022 01:34   
      
    AK>> I believe that now in the USA there should be a simplified version   
    AK>> of IVANHOE, as it is for the Bible.   
      
    AH> I found simplified versions of Shakespeare's words when I looked up   
    AH> a phrase in which I was uncertain about the spelling... but AFAIC   
    AH> much was lost that way. The author of IVANHOE used the language of   
    AH> Shakespeare & of the King James Bible... which his audience would   
    AH> have been familiar with... to represent the Old English which his   
    AH> medieval characters would have used. If the language were too   
    AH> authentic, few people would be able to understand it... if it were   
    AH> too modern, as in "you'll blow your cover", the effect would be   
    AH> lost.   
      
   It seems true, although it was a Russian translation of IVANHOE that I read   
   first, and I liked it very much. IMHO, it depends on the translator who must   
   have a good sense of humour. If a translator is a serious pedant IMHO he   
   cannot translate such things. Although, formally, everything can be translated   
   correctly.   
      
    AH> My experience as a junior high school teacher is that if Johnny (or   
    AH> his father) read some children's edition of e.g. HUCKLEBERRY FINN   
    AH> before he was old enough to appreciate the original Johnny may   
    AH> refuse to accept further input WRT the subject because he is quite   
    AH> convinced he's already mastered it.... :-Q   
      
   The heptateuch about Harry Porter is more important for the young generation.   
   --)   
      
    AH> If you don't feel ready to tackle some particular work yet, I would   
    AH> suggest you make a mental note & be patient. I gave up on WAR AND   
    AH> PEACE when I first tried to read it because I couldn't keep the   
    AH> names straight... but then I met you & other folks here who were   
    AH> able to explain how Russian names work, the library introduced a   
    AH> system where I didn't have to go downtown to find out what editions   
    AH> were available besides the one at our local branch, and various   
    AH> people shared their interpretation of the cast of characters on the   
    AH> Internet. I found one which included a few errors but printed it &   
    AH> modified it as I saw fit.   
      
   Getting red -- I haven't read WAR AND PEACE. ;) I didn't find the crooks to   
   get hooked. At least after seeing a movie with the same name.   
      
   Bye, Ardith!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   english_tutor 2022   
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