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   Alexander Koryagin to Ardith Hinton   
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   12 Sep 21 15:29:12   
   
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   Hi, Ardith Hinton! -> Alexander Koryagin   
   I read your message from 10.09.2021 23:12   
      
    AH>> If you &/or your quoter prefer not to use the double space, I   
    AH>> accept that when the results are consistent...   
      
    AK>> It is the specifics of my quoter.   
      
    AH> But you generally follow the same pattern in your own writing. :-))   
      
   It is only if I turn on the aligning option. For making the text right   
   margin aligned it is necessary to add some additional spaces. My quoter   
   add these spaces at first after full stops, commas etc. If it is not   
   enough additional spaces are added between words too. For instance, here   
   are two ways of quoting - with aligning and without. At present, I   
   always use the second variant.   
      
   -----Beginning of the citation-----   
    SA> When HarperCollins first approached me to  write  the  foreword  to   
    SA> Sterling's little book,  I must admit that I was more  than  a  bit   
    SA> taken aback.  Not quite aghast,  but definitely  shocked,  For  one   
    SA> thing,  Sterling has never been much of a reader.  In fact,  to the   
    SA> best of my knowledge,  the only things he ever read growing up were   
    SA> pornographic comic books (we used to call  them  "Tijuana  bibles,"   
    SA> but I'm sure that's no longer  considered  polite,  what  with  all   
    SA> these immigrants driving  around  everywhere  in  their  lowriders,   
    SA> listening to raps and shooting all the jobs).  So  the  thought  of   
    SA> Sterling writing an actual book? With words?  Yes, I was definitely   
    SA> shocked.   
      
    SA> When HarperCollins first approached me to write the foreword to   
    SA> Sterling's little book, I must admit that I was more than a bit   
    SA> taken aback. Not quite aghast, but definitely shocked, For one   
    SA> thing, Sterling has never been much of a reader. In fact, to the   
    SA> best of my knowledge, the only things he ever read growing up were   
    SA> pornographic comic books (we used to call them "Tijuana bibles,"   
    SA> but I'm sure that's no longer considered polite, what with all   
    SA> these immigrants driving around everywhere in their lowriders,   
    SA> listening to raps and shooting all the jobs). So the thought of   
    SA> Sterling writing an actual book? With words? Yes, I was definitely   
    SA> shocked.   
   ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
      
    AH> In the light of what Wiki has to say about the history of spacing   
    AH> in English, however, I now realize the tendency to employ single   
    AH> spacing within & between sentences originated with the advent of   
    AH> mass-market publications.   
      
   Although, double spaces don't help if the author uses long sentences.   
   For instance, look the these two sentence, by Daniel Defoe. Yes, he uses   
   a double space between his sentences for clarity. ;)   
      
   -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   Author: Daniel Defoe   
   THE FURTHER ADVENTURES OF ROBINSON CRUSOE   
   CHAPTER I--REVISITS ISLAND   
      
   That homely proverb, used on so many occasions in England, viz.   
   "That what is bred in the bone will not go out of the flesh," was   
   never more verified than in the story of my Life.  Any one would   
   think that after thirty-five years' affliction, and a variety of   
   unhappy circumstances, which few men, if any, ever went through   
   before, and after near seven years of peace and enjoyment in the   
   fulness of all things; grown old, and when, if ever, it might be   
   allowed me to have had experience of every state of middle life,   
   and to know which was most adapted to make a man completely happy;   
   I say, after all this, any one would have thought that the native   
   propensity to rambling which I gave an account of in my first   
   setting out in the world to have been so predominant in my   
   thoughts, should be worn out, and I might, at sixty one years of   
   age, have been a little inclined to stay at home, and have done   
   venturing life and fortune any more.   
   ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
    AK>> I remember you like to write your messages in the formatted form   
    AK>> with the aligned right margin.   
    AH> I align the right margin for various reasons, one of which is that   
    AH> I don't want the computer to muck around with my spacing. I've   
    AH> learned over the years that when I fill every line my software   
    AH> won't try to improve on it. But of course I have no control over   
    AH> what other people's software will do....: - Q   
    AK>> It means the text alignment is turned on in your editor.   
      
    AH> No, it means I'm an old schoolteacher for whom readability is of   
    AH> far more importance than what's au courant or what others might do   
    AH> to save a buck. When I look at material intended for beginning   
    AH> readers I notice the spacing is consistent but the right margin is   
    AH> variable. In such cases the paragraphs are usually very short. At   
    AH> some point I gather more fluent readers may prefer the right   
    AH> margins to be consistent, even at the expense of consistency in   
    AH> spacing.   
      
   Probably it is a good idea to do things as the majority does them. I   
   mean those people whom you are writing to. ;) Although, aligned right   
   margin looks nice anyway.   
      
   Bye, Ardith!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   english_tutor 2021   
      
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