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|    Ardith Hinton to Anton Shepelev    |
|    Beauty and the Beast    |
|    22 Apr 21 23:46:47    |
      MSGID: 1:153/716.0 082425c1       REPLY: 2:221/6.0 607ef684       CHRS: IBMPC 2       Hi, Anton! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:              AS>> This observation is most excellently demonstrated       AS>> in Clark Ashton Smith's prose poem "The Demon, the       AS>> Angel, and Beauty":       AS>>       AS>> http://eldritchdark.com/writings/       AS>> prose-poetry-plays/10/print              AH>> I found it very interesting.              AS> I was reminded of it this very Sunday in the State       AS> History Museum, while exploring with my 20x loupe       AS> a 16th-century print of Durer's "Melencholia I", on       AS> expositon from Pinacoteca Tosio Martinengo.                      Albrecht Durer, 1471-1528. Once again you piqued my interest       because Dallas & I have a copy of "The Little Owl" dated 1508. :-)                            AS> The angel and the putto are both rather gloomy.                      I don't know much about visual art in general or about this artist       in particular... but I've always thought my owl looked a bit sad & began to       wonder upon reading your comments what was going on in Durer's mind.               Uncle Google tells me the work you're referring to dates back to 1514       ... the year the artist's mother died... and it's also widely believed that       his arranged marriage was not a happy one. I see no further evidence of       sadness in what I can find on the Internet. The images there are small,       however, and I am aware of other situations in which e.g. the audience       wouldn't realize Beethoven was deaf when he wrote his "Ode to Joy" if they       hadn't been told.                            AS> They have failed to penetrate the secret of Beauty       AS> in spite of all the instruments they have tried to       AS> measure it,                      Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp,        Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning                      While I don't think art necessarily has to be beautiful it's       probably more attractive to people in general when it comes close at least.        In my youth I had a rare opportunity to spend some time alone with an aunt who       had received formal training in visual art whereas I was studying music. We       found that many of the terms we used, such as form and texture, were       identical. But being able to discuss the whys & wherefores doesn't turn       people into artists or musicians.                            AS> for Beauty is God or at least from God.                      Summarizing the prose poem you mentioned above:               1). The author uses a capital letter... not unusual, based on my observations        of poetry & of prayer books written around the same time. He's uncertain        as to whether he ought to say "he", "she", or "it".               2). The Demon says "I've never experienced it, and now I doubt it's real."               3). The Angel's reply is more thoughtful. It suggests to me that when I find        myself particularly moved by a bit of music... frisson... I am not alone.                            AS> It is a Platonic ideal.                      I don't know much about philosophy either. But when I see a photo       of the Rocky Mountains &/or drive alongside the Fraser Canyon I understand why       the psalmist was moved to say "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from       whence cometh my help," and why others believed the gods lived on Mt.       Olympus.... :-)                                   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 90/1 105/81 120/340 123/131 129/305 138/146 153/105       SEEN-BY: 153/250 757 802 7715 226/30 227/114 702 229/101 424 426 664       SEEN-BY: 229/700 1016 1017 240/5832 249/206 317 261/38 282/1038 301/1       SEEN-BY: 317/3 322/757 342/11 17 200 3634/12       PATH: 153/7715 757 229/664 426           |
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