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   Alexander Koryagin to Anton Shepelev:   
      
   AS>> A  language  does  not  consist of words. It merely has   
   AS>> them. You may say that  the  vocabulary  consist[s]  of   
   AS>> words.   
   AK> A machine has details or consists of details?   
      
   A  machine consists of details, but a language does not con-   
   sist of words because words do not  constitute  a  language.   
   There is much more to language than a set of words.   
      
   AK> When they (the Russian animators) record sound they very   
   AK> often speed up voices and dialogues.   
      
   No, not often.   
      
   AK> A funny film demands speed and dynamic.   
      
   The artificial speed and dynamics (not dynamic!) of a  sped-   
   up  tape  is  not  the  best  idea. Imperial records used to   
   speed-up the Fasts Domino phonograms  before  release.  They   
   did  it for two purposes: to add "dynamics" and to make them   
   harder to cover. The negative effect of the speed-up was  so   
   tremendous  that  Ace  records  had to release them on CD at   
   their correct pitch.   
      
   AK> Our famous Winnie-the-Poor also speaks quicker than  the   
   AK> actor who voiced him.   
      
   That  is  true. But looky -- your spell-checker did not help   
   you spell the name correctly, eh?   
      
   AK> You don't understand -- most Russian people should  gain   
   AK> skills  in  quick word processing if they want to under-   
   AK> stand quick English speech.   
      
   First, your recommendation is not  entirely  exact,  because   
   learners  need  to train their speech-recognition (word-pro-   
   cessing, as you call them) skills in the language  they  are   
   learning.  There  is no such thing as the general, language-   
   agnostic speech-recognition skills.  Second, your advice  is   
   true for any other learner of any other language.   
      
   AS>> I should never recommend this with real speech, because   
   AS>> that way you lose all emotional content.  While  remas-   
   AS>> tering   
   AK> When  my  aim  is  focused on training my speed skills I   
   AK> don't pay too much attention on such details.   
      
   Good for you, but I grow bored and disgusted when exposed to   
   second-rate  content.  When  the  material is good, however,   
   learning anything becomes a pleasure.   
      
   AK> Besides -- you can watch two time more shows and movies.   
      
   Good for you, but I go for quality instead of quantity.   
      
   AK> It is shame to spend time watching serials ->   
      
   I should agree if your sentence ended here, but you  contin-   
   ue:   
      
   AK> -> in  Russian,  but if you speed them up you waste less   
   AK> time and get more hearing skills.   
      
   You mean TV series? English or Russian ones? In my  opinion,   
   TV series almost never rise to the level of art and remain a   
   sort of  cultural  cud.  I  did  moderately  enjoy  "Downton   
   Abbey",  though, when it was screened on our "Kultura" chan-   
   nel, ad-free. Most good TV series are  by  today's  measures   
   either  very  short  or otherwise non-conventional, e.g. the   
   original Rod Serling's "Twilight Zone", or  Tatiana  Liozno-   
   va's "Seventeen moments in spring."   
      
   AK> IMHO,  first, a learner should learn how to hear and un-   
   AK> derstand quick speech. Then he can enjoy emotions.   
      
   I beg to differ, for emotions facilitate both  understanding   
   and learing.   
      
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