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   Hi, Anton Shepelev! -> Alexander Koryagin   
   I read your message from 21.02.2021 19:34   
      
    AK>> Another problem, as I had said once, is that the Russian language   
    AK>> consists of longer words than English,   
      
    AS> A language does not consist of words. It merely has them. You may   
    AS> say that the vocabulary consist of words.   
      
   A machine has details or consists of details?   
      
    AK>> and because of it a Russian thinks and understands slower.   
    AS> If you are serious, than I disagree. Your conclustion is wrong on   
    AS> so many levels:   
    AS> 1.  you ignore the amount of words,   
    AS> 2.  it is likely humans to not think entirely in words.   
    AS> 3.  learners  of English has simlar problems understanding   
    AS>     fast Russian speach, e.g.: in this animated detective:   
    AS>        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UlN6Zuz5E0   
      
   When they (the Russian animators) record sound they very often speed up   
   voices and dialogues. A funny film demands speed and dynamic. Our famous   
   Winnie-the-Poor also speaks quicker than the actor who voiced him.   
      
    AK>> So, for training hearing skills a Russian should start hearing all   
    AK>> the Russian video show and movies sped up by 1.5-2 times.   
    AS> He or she had better start with listening to slow and clearly   
    AS> articluated English speech, as found, for example, in early sound   
    AS> films.   
      
   You don't understand -- most Russian people should gain skills in quick   
   word processing if they want to understand quick English speech. Many   
   people know how the words should be pronounced, but it is not enough.   
      
    AK>> Unfortunately I have no such a device. To be exactly I have it,   
    AK>> but it often freeze after couple of minutes of speeded up   
    AK>> playing. ;-<   
      
    AS> You mean Youtube? From "Get lamp" -- a great documentary about   
      
   Youtube, if run in browser, can speed up videos, but I only watch movies   
   and shows recorded on my media player box. After work I use only TV set   
   and I don't want use a computer with youtube. But it is of course only   
   my problem. ;-) Theoretically, now it is a hummer time to buy a new TV   
   set with Internet.   
      
    AS> interactive fiction -- I know that blind people use text-to-speech   
    AS> converters at what I cannot help designatig an incredibly high rate   
    AS> of fire, but I should never recommend this with real speech,   
    AS> because that way you lose all emotional content. While remastering   
      
   When my aim is focused on training my speed skills I don't pay too much   
   attention on such details. Besides -- you can watch two time more shows   
   and movies. It is shame to spend time watching serials in Russian, but   
   if you speed them up you waste less time and get more hearing skills.   
      
    AS> old acoustic recordings of 1900s, where the original RPM was not   
    AS> known and could not be determined by key notes, such as the La at   
    AS> 440 Hz, AML+ determined the correct playback speed by the degree of   
    AS> emotional fidelity -- and never erred as test with reference   
    AS> phonograms showed.   
      
   IMHO, first, a learner should learn how to hear and understand quick   
   speech. Then he can enjoy emotions.   
      
      
   PS: And a spell checker is extremely useful, too.   
      
   Bye, Anton!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   english_tutor 2021   
      
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