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   Message 3,170 of 4,347   
   Anton Shepelev to Ardith Hinton   
   A question about tenses   
   25 May 20 12:33:28   
   
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   Ardith Hinton:   
      
   >            Okay.  I could add a story about some things a friend   
   > gave us after his mother's death, but apparently you don't need   
   > it....  :-)   
      
   I should fear to hear it -- what if the inheritance turns out to   
   have another magickal item?   
      
   > AS>  It reminds me of a dialog line from a British horror story,   
   >   
   >            Note to Alexander:  dialog(ue) reflects the way the   
   > characters in a story would speak & can't necessarily be taken as   
   > a guide to proper usage.   
      
   Yes, and that woman is a British schoolteacher.   
      
   > AS>  where a woman excalims "I forgot he was vegeterinan!", when   
   > AS>  she realies she has prepared no vegetaranian meal for her new   
   > AS>  acquaintance, who, by all means, is vegetarian still.   
   >   
   >            If this woman thinks it's imperative that "forgot"   
   > agree with "was" she may be adhering to a "rule" which native   
   > speakers break routinely, because it doesn't make sense when e.g.   
   > somebody who claimed to be vegan or vegetarian awhile ago may   
   > have changed their mind.  Dallas & I often see the latter.  :-Q   
      
   Whithersoever I look, I see adherence, quite sticky adherence, nigh   
   sufficient to catch flies:   
      
   1. A man addresses a police consultant in Andrew Ian Dodge's "The   
      Gathering Dark and other Tales":   
      
      "No Sir. Please excuse me for doubting you; I forgot you were a   
       police consultant." (the other *is* a police consultant)   
      
   2. Michael Sharp's "The True Story of the Sharpest Ever" has this   
      line of dialogue "I forgot you were a doorman now."   
      
   3. Dialog from Charis Marsh's Ballet School Confidential:   
      "Oh, I found about Isaac."   
      "Oh, I forgot you were still reading Theresa's biography. What   
       did happen to Isaac?"   
      
   4. From Traci E. Hall's The Queen's Guard:   
      Eleanor coughed, and Louis turned to her with a wink: "Mon Cher,   
      I forgot you were there." (she is still there).   
      
   5. From Martin Chuzzlewit, by Charles Dickens:   
      
      `I forgot,' cried the old man, looking at him with a keenness   
       which the other seemed to feel, although he did not raise his   
       eyes so as to see it. `I ask your pardon. I forgot you were a   
       stranger. For the moment you reminded me of one Pecksniff, a   
       cousin of mine...'   
      
   and so on. Where do they break the rule?   
      
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