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|    Alexander Koryagin to Ardith Hinton    |
|    Misinterpretation... 1.    |
|    22 Apr 20 16:09:10    |
      MSGID: 2:221/6.0 5ea041f6       REPLY: 1:153/716.0 e9e47e62       PID: SmapiNNTPd/Linux/IPv6 1.3 20200418       EID: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101       Thunderbird/31.7.0       CHRS: CP866 2       TZUTC: 0300       TID: hpt/lnx 1.9.0-cur 2020-04-15       Hi, Ardith Hinton! - >Alexander Koryagin       I read your message from 20.04.2020 21:24               AH>> And you? I hear Moscow is affected as well... (sigh).        ak>> For a while I am well.        AH> Glad to hear it. Thus far... touch wood... so are we. Ex-Brits may        AH> say "knock on wood", but the meaning is the same. The objective is        AH> to frighten off evil spirits who enjoy messing with success.              Do you spit over your left shoulder? ;)               ak>> Although, I think that deaths from a long quarantine can be more        ak>> numerable than from the virus. Working was the thing that kept        ak>> relatives apart. (black humour).               AH> Yes, we've heard other comments to much the same effect. :-))              And also is clear that if you keep quarantine and the number of       positively tested people has been rocketing after the virus incubation       period passed, it means that the virus is already widespread and the       quarantine has no effect. The tests only light the limited area of the       problem, as the light spot of a flashlight is getting bigger on the       floor while you make the light cone wider.               ak>> The most crazy thing in it is that Putin has imposed the same        ak>> measures across all Russia.               AH> That may not be such a bad idea. We heard about a guy who returned        AH> to the Northwest Territories after a trip through BC & Alberta...        AH> and infected others in his home town. Population density is not the        AH> only risk factor.              Covid19's death toll in Russia is 0.8% of the number of infected people.       Most people have the easy form of it of have no symptoms at all. There       can be many reasons for that, but what is clear that Russian authority       prefer not to note this fact. It is a very convenient moment for Putin       to extend his grip on the country.               ak>> I even heard a story about a man who stroll alone along        aK>> the sea, and he was caught by the police, for violating        ak>> self isolation.               AH> Hmm. The difference between quarantine & self-isolation, AFAIC, is        AH> that if you're quarantined you may not leave your home for any        AH> reason. If you are voluntarily self-isolating the degree of        AH> strictness is more flexible. You can shop for groceries or take a        AH> walk as long as you remain at a safe distance (currently defined as        AH> 6 feet or 2 metres) from anybody who doesn't live in the same        AH> household. Or you can eagerly accept a friend's offer to add a few        AH> items to their shopping cart & deliver them to your place on their        AH> way home....              Yes, we can go to shop. But what is more dangerous - a single man       walking along the sea or people from all the town shoping in the same       shop? Where the limit of craziness?               ak>> Thank God, for a while it is a house arrest. But the measures are        ak>> crazy and excessive. As Putin says "we react in advance".               AH> Another bit of gallows humour:               AH> Q. (looking at the family dog) Mom, why are humans wearing muzzles?        AH> A. Because they're not bright enough to learn "sit" and "stay".              Well, it is funny. But if we look at numbers:              https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/united-states-influenza-pneumonia       The death toll from influenza and pneumonia is 80.5 thousand people per       season (the number of 2017). 220 people per day. But every epidemic as       we know from history lasts usually 2 months. It means that during the       days of the epidemic the death toll is 6 times higher than average death       toll! I.E 1323 person per day.              Now suppose the American media, in 2017, would have announced that the       US has an awful epidemic, and every day the country is going to lose       1300 people per day during three months!!! (some days more some days       less). Will it be hysteria and panic? No doubt about that. The epidemic       of COVID19 is a media epidemic.               AH> What seems excessive to some folk may not be to others. Awhile ago        AH> the police in Victoria BC responded to complaints from the        AH> neighbours about a noisy party which continued until well after        AH> 11:00 PM. The participants were fined. Some apparently felt they        AH> deserved a treat after being good for a few days....: - Q              Maybe you heard recently that one Russian man shot and killed five       people under his windows because they were too noisy.       https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/05/russian-man-shoots-kil       s-5-neighbors-over-noise-complaint-reports-a69874       or       https://is.gd/Iflmln               ak>> Although we have now quite many infected people and a very low        ak>> death rate among them. But nobody pays        aK>> attention at the statistics.               AH> I find the statistics confusing at times because we still have much        AH> to learn about this disease. But there's some evidence that the        AH> death rate is lower in jurisdictions where the authorities have        AH> been more proactive....              It doesn't matter how much people is in quarantine. The death toll is       measured when we take the number of infected+recovered people and the       number of people who died. It is well known that majority of people       don't have any symptoms while being ill with COVID19 or they are ill in       an easy form.              Bye, Ardith!       Alexander Koryagin       english_tutor 2020              ---         * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 90/1 120/340 601 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 226/30 227/114       SEEN-BY: 229/101 426 1014 240/1120 1634 2100 5138 5832 5853 8001 8002       SEEN-BY: 240/8005 249/206 317 261/38 280/5003 5006 313/41 317/3 320/219       SEEN-BY: 322/757 335/364 342/200 382/147 423/81 2454/119 4500/1 5020/1042       PATH: 221/6 1 280/5003 240/1120 5832 229/426           |
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