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|    Anton Shepelev to Ardith Hinton    |
|    Dialect... 1.    |
|    26 Jul 19 00:32:38    |
      MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5d3a1fee       REPLY: 1:153/716.0 d3912f84       PID: JamNNTPd/Cygwin32 1.3 20190208       CHRS: IBMPC 2       TZUTC: 0300       TID: hpt/w32-mvc 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08       Ardith Hinton:              AH> Understood. It's not the way folks generally write       AH> here. However, I would like to think I've helped create       AH> an atmosphere in which they feel free to test emerging       AH> skills              Well-noted. One can't improve one's English, nor one's       muscles, if one does not occasionally stretch one's skills       to, and then a little beyond, their limits, in which       exercise errors are unavoidable.              AH> & within reason to lighten up the tone when the       AH> discussion of grammar or whatever is a bit abstruse for       AH> some members of the audience. ;-)              Yeah, keep it spicy.              AH> I agree with you & the sound engineer that the dialect       AH> used in a song cannot... in most cases... be improved       AH> upon or translated into standard English without losing       AH> something.       A mere glance at Matlock's notes about translating Leskov's       "Soboyrane" into English shows how difficult it indeed it       is:               https://academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/D8K07BHT                     AH> Another example I noticed in a folk song book was what       AH> the writers or their editors did with "Let My People       AH> Go". AFAIK this song originated with slaves in the       AH> southeastern USA, most but not all of whom were black.       AH> If they rhymed "lost" with "across 't", a pronunciation       AH> used in some parts of northern England, I can relate.              Sorry, I can't help it:               https://youtu.be/4D7q4apjSmg?t=299        [Exodus]              ---        * Origin: nntps://fidonews.mine.nu - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/360.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/2 203/0 221/1 6 360 226/17 227/114 229/354 426 1014       SEEN-BY: 240/1120 1634 2100 5138 5832 5853 8001 8002 249/206 317 261/38       SEEN-BY: 280/5003 5006 313/41 317/3 320/219 322/757 335/364 342/200       SEEN-BY: 2454/119       PATH: 221/1 280/5003 240/1120 5832 229/426           |
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