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   Anton Shepelev to Ardith Hinton   
   Dialect... 1.   
   26 Jul 19 00:32:38   
   
   MSGID: 2:221/360.0 5d3a1fee   
   REPLY: 1:153/716.0 d3912f84   
   PID: JamNNTPd/Cygwin32 1.3 20190208   
   CHRS: IBMPC 2   
   TZUTC: 0300   
   TID: hpt/w32-mvc 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08   
   Ardith Hinton:   
      
   AH> Understood.   It's  not  the  way  folks generally write   
   AH> here.  However, I would like to think I've helped create   
   AH> an  atmosphere  in which they feel free to test emerging   
   AH> skills   
      
   Well-noted.  One can't  improve  one's  English,  nor  one's   
   muscles,  if  one does not occasionally stretch one's skills   
   to, and  then  a  little  beyond,  their  limits,  in  which   
   exercise errors are unavoidable.   
      
   AH> & within   reason  to  lighten  up  the  tone  when  the   
   AH> discussion of grammar or whatever is a bit abstruse  for   
   AH> some members of the audience.  ;-)   
      
   Yeah, keep it spicy.   
      
   AH> I  agree  with you & the sound engineer that the dialect   
   AH> used in a song cannot... in most  cases...  be  improved   
   AH> upon  or translated into standard English without losing   
   AH> something.   
   A mere glance at Matlock's notes about translating  Leskov's   
   "Soboyrane"  into  English  shows how difficult it indeed it   
   is:   
      
     https://academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/D8K07BHT   
      
      
   AH> Another example I noticed in a folk song book  was  what   
   AH> the  writers  or  their  editors did with "Let My People   
   AH> Go".  AFAIK this song  originated  with  slaves  in  the   
   AH> southeastern  USA,  most but not all of whom were black.   
   AH> If they rhymed "lost" with "across 't", a  pronunciation   
   AH> used in some parts of northern England, I can relate.   
      
   Sorry, I can't help it:   
      
     https://youtu.be/4D7q4apjSmg?t=299   
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