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|    Alexander Koryagin to Dallas Hinton    |
|    Women don't like rain    |
|    03 Jul 19 12:40:42    |
      MSGID: 2:221/6.0 5d1c7818       REPLY: 1:153/7715.0 d1bbcd60       PID: JamNNTPd/Cygwin32 1.3 20190208       CHRS: LATIN-1 2       TZUTC: 0300       TID: hpt/w32-mvc 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08       Hi, Dallas Hinton!       I read your message from 02.07.2019 13:14               AS>>> Not at all, and Dallas Hinton explained it well that in this        AS>>> phrase!?! horse' is uncountable becauase denotes a substance. In        AS>>> Shakespeare, however,!?! snail' certainly refers to the whole        AS>>> individual animal. Observe that Americans use!?! pie'        AS>>> uncountably, too, e.g.: "We had tea and apple pie".               AK>> Horse is a substance? ;)               DH> One of the problems here is that many nouns can be both countable        DH> and uncountable, depending on context. To confuse things        DH> further, "horse" is a street name for cocaine (or at least, used to        DH> be -- dunno if that's still true!)               DH> When we say "tea and apple pie", we actually mean "a cup of tea and        DH> a piece of apple pie" (or perhaps several cups and pieces,        DH> depending on greed, appetite, and the host's offerings!).               DH> Now - "horse" in the powder form is uncountable (without a        DH> microscope!) but can be measured in grams (or variants). In the        DH> animal form, a herd of horses is confusing, because while the        DH> number of horses in a herd can be counted but the word "herd" isn't        DH> usually. Nonetheless, we might talk about there being a number of        DH> herds of wild horses in the US midWest... and we could count them.               DH> I guess what I'm really saying is that we shouldn't get too hung up        DH> on the concept of countable vs. noncountable -- do what makes sense        DH> and remember that the English language is a hodge-podge of words        DH> and phrases stolen from any other language that will hold still        DH> long enough to be robbed!              Anton has told me that you told me that King Arthas smelled like horse       (without an article) because horse was a substance. Did you tell it? I don't       remember. ;)              Although I liked more Mark's explanation:       -----Beginning of the citation-----       Well... In short, a grammatically correct phrase would have been too awkward       in this situation. ;)       ----- The end of the citation -----              Bye, Dallas!       Alexander Koryagin       english_tutor 2019              ---        * Origin: nntps://fidonews.mine.nu - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/6.0)       SEEN-BY: 1/19 123 15/2 16/0 120/544 123/130 131 203/0 221/1 6 360       SEEN-BY: 226/17 227/114 229/354 426 1014 240/1120 2100 5138 5832 5853       SEEN-BY: 249/206 317 261/38 280/5003 317/3 320/119 219 322/0 757 342/200       SEEN-BY: 640/1384 2454/119       PATH: 221/6 1 320/219 240/5832 229/426           |
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