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   Message 2,669 of 4,347   
   Ardith Hinton to Alexander Koryagin   
   Women don't like rain   
   02 Jul 19 17:20:18   
   
   MSGID: 1:153/716.0 d1bc9881   
   REPLY: 2:221/6.0 5d1a0c5e   
   CHRS: IBMPC 2   
   Hi, Alexander!  Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:   
      
    AH>> [...] you could correctly say "he should not (do so)"   
    AH>> or "he ought not to (do so)".   
      
    AK>  I meant something like this:   
    AK>  -----Beginning of the citation-----   
    AK>  "Instead of which," I said, "in a month's time I take   
    AK>  the most important examination of my career."   
      
    AK>  "I should advise you not to." (Ch. Snow)   
    AK>  ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
    AK>  I.e. the main idea (I take the most important   
    AK>  examination) was replaced by "to"   
      
      
               Supplementing Anton's comments WRT the issue... you can't replace a   
    verb with a preposition.  In the above example Snow used the infinitive form   
   of the verb "(to) take" the second time, anticipating that the reader would   
   recall & mentally add "take" etc. in accordance with the original statement.    
   When you tried to do the same, your choice of "should" introduced an added   
   complication: although native speakers use "to" with "ought" they don't use it   
   with "should". You can, however, advise a person to do or not to do something.   
      
               Where I come from an infinitive is still an infinitive even if part   
    of it has been left out.  The trick is in knowing which part to leave out.    
   -)   
      
      
      
      
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