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   Hi, Anton Shepelev : Alexander Koryagin!   
   I read your message from 25.06.2019 23:40   
      
    AK>> When a person is in a company of friends he never speaks formally.   
    AK>> And he should not to. It is too loathsome, IMHO.   
      
    AS> Correction: "should not" or "ought not to" (depending on what you   
    AS> mean).   
      
   Is it true, Ardith? Can I replace "speak" for "to"?   
      
    AS> Formal and informal are two poles with natural language somewhere   
    AS> in between. Informal language need not mutilate words nor cripple   
    AS> grammar. Remember, for example, the dialogs in our screen   
    AS> adaptation of Captain Blood (1991). Do you find them loathsome?   
      
    AK>> As for "inside/inside of" formally you are right, but there are   
    AK>> many opinions on this account. For instance: [...]   
    AK>> http://tinyurl.com/yxacrj6f   
      
    AS> There are more than one opinion on any matter, but there is no   
    AS> logical justification of either "inside of" or "irregardless" (for   
    AS> another example). They are mere uneducated distortions by people   
    AS> who do not care about their language and culture and consequently   
    AS> never ponder and wonder about the anatomy of words or their   
    AS> functions in a sentence. But such people shall not decide the   
    AS> evolution of the language.   
      
   Languages follow people, not textbooks. Textbooks follow languages. ;-)   
      
    AK>> IMHO, they are just new words. Like a flash mob, blog, podcast   
    AK>> etc. I don't like them, too.   
      
    AS> Correction: I dislike them too, or I don't like them either.   
      
   Well. :)   
      
    AK>> But the main feature of informal speech, AIUI, is making the talk   
    AK>> more funny and humorous. It's like I see a school boy and cite the   
    AK>> Shakespeare' lines:   
      
   AK>> -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   AK>> ...the whining school-boy, with his satchel   
   AK>>   And shining moaning face, creeping like snail   
   AK>>   Unwillingly to school.   
   AK>> ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
    AS> Shakespeare is too difficult for me, who has read Tolkien,   
    AS> E.R.Eddison, Poe, Lovecraft, and even John Bunyan. I feel no rhythm   
    AS> in this fragment, but see nothing missing save an article   
    AS> before "snail".   
      
   As for the article I have already discussed here the similar case, when one   
   prince returned home "smelling like horse". In other words, English is not   
   very strict. ;)   
      
   And in the verse, the most funny, IMHO, was my distortion, where I replaced   
   "shining morning face" to "shining moaning face". Although, IMHO, Shakespeare   
   really hadn't catch properly the words of his muse. In the original there was   
   "moaning face". It is more true and vivid.   
      
   Bye, Anton!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   english_tutor 2019   
      
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