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   Anton Shepelev to Alexander Koryagin   
   Women don't like rain   
   25 Jun 19 23:40:22   
   
   MSGID: 2:221/6.0 5d1286b4   
   REPLY: 2:221/6.0 5d11c3aa   
   PID: JamNNTPd/Cygwin32 1.3 20190208   
   CHRS: IBMPC 2   
   TZUTC: 0300   
   TID: hpt/w32-mvc 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08   
   Alexander Koryagin:   
      
   AK> When a person is in a company of friends he never speaks   
   AK> formally. And he should not to.  It  is  too  loathsome,   
   AK> IMHO.   
   Correction:  "should  not"  or  "ought not to" (depending on   
   what you mean).   
      
   Formal and informal are  two  poles  with  natural  language   
   somewhere  in  between.  Informal language need not mutilate   
   words nor  cripple  grammar.   Remember,  for  example,  the   
   dialogs  in  our  screen adaptation of Captain Blood (1991).   
   Do you find them loathsome?   
      
   AK> As for "inside/inside of" formally you  are  right,  but   
   AK> there are many opinions on this account. For instance:   
   AK> [...]   
   AK> http://tinyurl.com/yxacrj6f   
      
   There  are more than one opinion on any matter, but there is   
   no  logical  justification  of   either   "inside   of"   or   
   "irregardless"   (for   another  example).   They  are  mere   
   uneducated distortions by people who do not care about their   
   language  and  culture  and  consequently  never  ponder and   
   wonder about the anatomy of words or their  functions  in  a   
   sentence.  But such people shall not decide the evolution of   
   the language.   
      
   AK> IMHO, they are just new words. Like a flash  mob,  blog,   
   AK> podcast etc. I don't like them, too.   
      
   Correction: I dislike them too, or I don't like them either.   
      
   AK> But the main feature of informal speech, AIUI, is making   
   AK> the talk more funny and humorous.  It's  like  I  see  a   
   AK> school boy and cite the Shakespeare' lines:   
   AK> -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   AK> ...the whining school-boy, with his satchel   
   AK>   And shining moaning face, creeping like snail   
   AK>   Unwillingly to school.   
   AK> ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
   Shakespeare  is  too difficult for me, who has read Tolkien,   
   E.R.Eddison, Poe, Lovecraft, and even John Bunyan.   I  feel   
   no  rhythm in this fragment, but see nothing missing save an   
   article before "snail".   
      
   AK> No, last time I don't read much - I have  problems  with   
   AK> my eyes. After work they are too tired. Before bed I can   
   AK> read 15 minutes, maximum. And I read some old stuff.   
      
   Proposed correction: "lately I haven't been reading much."   
      
   I wish you to  overcome  this  condition  somehow:  consider   
   exercise  for the eyes, medicine, frequent rest for muscular   
   relief, maybe consult a doctor.  Reading is too precious  to   
   give it up.   
      
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