home bbs files messages ]

Just a sample of the Echomail archive

Cooperative anarchy at its finest, still active today. Darkrealms is the Zone 1 Hub.

   ENGLISH_TUTOR      English Tutoring for Students of the Eng      4,347 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 2,644 of 4,347   
   Alexander Koryagin to Anton Shepelev   
   Women don't like rain   
   25 Jun 19 09:48:18   
   
   MSGID: 2:221/6.0 5d11c3aa   
   REPLY: 2:221/6.0 5d10fe20   
   PID: JamNNTPd/Cygwin32 1.3 20190208   
   CHRS: CP866 2   
   TZUTC: 0300   
   TID: hpt/w32-mvc 1.9.0-cur 2019-01-08   
   Hi, Anton Shepelev!   
   I read your message from 24.06.2019 19:45   
      
    AS>>> whereas your use of "wanna" and "inside of" can make any literate   
    AS>>> person's nails turn blue :-)   
    AK>> 90% of people use informal speech. It makes them not look too   
    AK>> green and blue. ;-)   
      
    AS> As in inexperienced and sad? I think not so. To me, emphatically   
    AS> informal language written by educated people only shows their   
    AS> carelessness and makes them seem lowbrow teenagers. It is quite   
    AS> appropriate and natural, however, in the verbal speech of those who   
    AS> do not know better.   
      
   When a person is in a company of friends he never speaks formally. And he   
   should not to. It is too loathsome, IMHO. As for "inside/inside of" formally   
   you are right, but there are many opinions on this account. For instance:   
      
   -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   inside me or inside of me?   
      
   Q:   
   Which one is correct in the following sentence?   
   "I have a feeling of guilt inside me or ...inside of me."   
      
   A:   
   Both are usable.   
      
   Between these two, if said with no particular emphasis, I would probably use   
   "inside me." Perhaps, if I were emphasizing said part of the sentence, I would   
   more likely use "inside of me."   
      
   i.e.,   
      
   I have a feeling of guilt inside me. (no particular emphasis)   
      
   vs.   
      
   I have a feeling of guilt inside of me. (with emphasis)   
      
   (does not need to be so, though)   
      
   http://tinyurl.com/yxacrj6f   
   ----- The end of the citation -----   
      
    AS> Futher more, informal language is more primitive than literate   
    AS> language, has lower expressive power and weaker nuancing. Its   
    AS> slipshod phraseology shows a disparaging attitude towards every   
    AS> thing mentioned and every thought uttered. Consider, for example,   
    AS> app vs. program or selfie vs. autoportrait.   
      
   IMHO, they are just new words. Like a flash mob, blog, podcast etc. I don't   
   like them, too. But the main feature of informal speech, AIUI, is making the   
   talk more funny and humorous. It's like I see a school boy and cite the   
   Shakespeare' lines:   
   -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   ....the whining school-boy, with his satchel   
    And shining moaning face, creeping like snail   
    Unwillingly to school.   
   ----- The end of the citation -----   
   -)   
      
    AS> I believe one should learn from the best rather than from the   
    AS> worst, and therefore commend the best Russian writers: Pushkin,   
    AS> Tolstoy (especially his later and shorter works), Leskov, Garshin   
    AS> and more recent Soviet writers, e.g. Alexander Grin, Boris Pilnyak,   
    AS> Andrey Platonov, Chingiz Aitmatov, Yuriy Kazakov. I don't know any   
    AS> talented writers in modern Russia, but am looking forward to   
    AS> reading Dmitry Likhanov's "The Life of a White Bitch" (about a   
    AS> dog). Have you read it already?   
      
   No, last time I don't read much - I have problems with my eyes. After work   
   they are too tired. Before bed I can read 15 minutes, maximum. And I read some   
   old stuff.   
      
   Bye, Anton!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
   english_tutor 2019   
      
   ---   
    * Origin: nntps://fidonews.mine.nu - Lake Ylo - Finland (2:221/6.0)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/2 203/0 221/1 6 360 226/17 227/114 229/354 426 1014   
   SEEN-BY: 240/1120 1634 2100 5138 5832 5853 8001 8002 249/206 317 261/38   
   SEEN-BY: 280/5003 5006 5268 313/41 317/3 320/219 322/757 335/364 342/200   
   SEEN-BY: 393/68 2454/119   
   PATH: 221/6 1 280/5003 240/1120 5832 229/426   
      

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca