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|    Ardith Hinton to alexander koryagin    |
|    Such/Fuel... 2.    |
|    28 Jun 16 05:01:28    |
      Hi again, Alexander! This is a continuation of my previous message to you:              ak> BTW, practically all uncounable nouns can be used with       ak> "a" articles when they have a definitive word before       ak> them, that reckons it to this or that group.                      While I'd hesitate to say "practically all", Roy has offered a good       rule of thumb IMHO. Expanding on some previous examples:               1) When we hear on the news that the price of oil has gone up, we know        the reference is to crude oil... AKA petroleum. Such things can be        measured only by weight or by volume & are described as uncountable        for that reason. Less oil, fewer barrels of oil. Okay. But if we        take a moment to consider while we're washing the dinner dishes how        many other types of oil are stored in the kitchen & the bathroom as        well as the garage, the workshop, and/or a musician's emergency kit        we might well be tempted to take the easy way out by calling all of        them "oils" and making a list. That's what the authors chose to do        in the second example I mentioned to Roy. These people listed only        eight varieties which are actually edible, but I know of many more.               2) As luck would have it I went to the dentist's office a few days ago        & saw a sign in the washroom saying "do not throw paper towel(s) in        the toilet". This particular washroom is available only to him, to        his staff, and to his clients... and the guy is a perfectionist. I        understand why even a native speaker of English may be at a loss in        such cases. He buys paper towel(s) in rolls. Same here. The kind        we buy has perforations, however, making the pieces countable. The        kind he buys come in a continuous roll... i.e. the size of a single        portion of paper towel depends on how clever one is at inducing the        machine to dispense more than a few inches at a time. Although the        pieces are still countable, the size is much less predictable. The        important issue is that a toilet can be plugged just as easily with        numerous small bits of industrial-strength recycled cardboard as by        a single large one, and the dentist probably realizes that.... ;-)                            ak> A pronoun, for instance:              ak> What a sweet honey it is!                      With the exception of idiomatic expressions such as "it's raining",       however, a pronoun must have an antecedent... so I think what you're asking is       whether or not "honey" may be regarded as a countable noun if you're comparing       different varieties of honey. My daughter's initial reaction to this question       was the same as mine: honey is supposed to be sweet, isn't it?? My husband's       reaction was that one's perception might vary according to which subspecies of       bees made the honey & from which plants they gathered the nectar. That was my       second thought. Either way, we don't know what's available in Russia.... :-)                            ak> Probably we can omit "sweet" and in this case we will       ak> single out our honey, make it special with "a":                      You could say "It is [indefinite article + adjective + noun]", with       or without the addition of an intensifier, in comparing it to other varieties.       AFAIC the indefinite article "a(n)" doesn't make it sound special, but in this       context "what" does. WAR AND PEACE is a Russian novel, one of many such works       by various people from various countries... yet what a truly wonderful work it       is! The second clause here is what identifies it as special to *me*.... :-))                                   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)    |
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