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|    Ardith Hinton to alexander koryagin    |
|    Determiners    |
|    15 Jun 16 22:56:14    |
      Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Alan Ianson:              ak> I just try to find out the function        |I'm just trying              ak> of "the" article        |the "the" article... just as Alan said. While it may sound        rather awkward in this context, I'd have done the same.                      Note to Alan: I gather our friends from Russia have a heck of a time       with articles in English because they use them differently or not at all. Oh,       and I won't correct your English unless you ask me to. Alexander did.... ;-)                            ak> Theoretically, it should be used to single out a thing       ak> out of the row of other similar things.                      In combination with other descriptors, it can be.                            ak> For instance, there many regions        |there are many regions              ak> or areas in Russia. _The_ area where I live                      So far, so good. Other examples:               the kitchen door        the blue flowers in the garden        the house that Jack built        the people who live downstairs                            ak> is located in western part of Russia.       ak> (IMHO no article before "western" either, because       ak> "western" is a determiner itself).                      Ah... I think I see part of the problem here. Some time ago you were       asking me about determiners, and apart from a brief reference in a high school       textbook I found very little information about them. Perhaps this is an issue       which often arises in Russian where it doesn't in English.               Since you asked again I've been researching the topic a bit more, and       I've found some further information which gives me a better handle on it. For       now I'll just say that in English "Moscow" is a noun which may also be used as       an adjective while "western" is an adjective which may also be used as a noun.               From where I sit neither is a determiner. What I see is that in your       mind Russia is divided, for purposes of this discussion, into two parts. From       my POV you'd be using determiners if you said "I live in this part... not that       one". We don't use articles there. But to native speakers of English it will       seem that where there's a western part there must be an eastern part too. :-)                                   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)    |
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