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|    alexander koryagin to Paul Quinn    |
|    Hans Hoffman and Austraians    |
|    05 Feb 16 18:18:48    |
      Hi, Paul Quinn!       I read your message from 04.02.2016 14:25       about Hans Hoffman and Austraians.               ak>> In the English textbook (it was Hans Hoffman's English        ak>> teaching course available in Russia) I saw this:               ak>> I am Australian        ak>> I am German               ak>> Should it be "I am an Australian" or we can speak both        ak>> variants?               PQ> You could get by with using either one, and most people        PQ> wouldn't give it a second thought. English isn't as 'picky' as        PQ> German, and I'll tell you why I think that.               PQ> Your question reminded me of a speech given by J.F. Kennedy in        PQ> 1963, in which he used the words "Ich Bin ein Berliner". I        PQ> remembered there was some consternation at the way he phrased        PQ> the statement, and did some (actual) research tonight to find        PQ> out why. Here's what I came up with:               PQ> http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/08/the-rea       -meaning-of-ich-bin - ein-berliner/309500/              I see you point, although you compare German and English articles. I just read       long ago that if we say about a nationality we should use "a".               PQ> (All on one line, BTW.)               PQ> I quote from it... "Afterward it would be suggested that        PQ> Kennedy had got the translation wrong that by using the article        PQ> ein before the word Berliner, he had mistakenly called himself        PQ> a jelly doughnut. In fact, Kennedy was correct. To state Ich        PQ> bin Berliner would have suggested being born in Berlin, whereas        PQ> adding the word ein implied being a Berliner in spirit. His        PQ> audience understood that he meant to show his solidarity."               PQ> What's not stated, and I'm guessing, is that there may have        PQ> been a delicious pastry called 'a Berliner'. :)              PS: A nice speech about democracy and freedom by President of the country       where Negro people were treated as second sort people. The canceling of the       segregation was a good time ahead of Kennedy's speech in Berlin.              Bye, Paul!       Alexander Koryagin       ENGLISH_TUTOR 2016              --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox        * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)    |
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