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   Ardith Hinton to alexander koryagin   
   cat and dog   
   02 Jan 15 23:42:13   
   
   Hi, Alexander!  Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:   
      
    ak> Meat is uncountable like milk and is used without any article.   
      
    AH> Usually... but not always. In our household you might also hear   
    AH> me say (in my capacity as chief cook & bottle washer) "I'll get   
    AH> around to that as soon as I've put away the meat & the milk I   
    AH> just brought home from the grocery store." Having worked in the   
    AH> restaurant business, I attach a high priority to safe food   
    AH> handling... and I specify which meat & milk I'm referring to so   
    AH> that other family members know I'm not neglecting them if they   
    AH> have to wait awhile.   
      
    ak> Well, I got heated when I said "without any article". ;) I meant   
    ak> "a" only. Actually, of course, "the" can be used with any noun.   
      
      
               And of course I had to ponder this "rule" for awhile in case there   
   might be an occasional exception which neither of us had thought of... [grin].   
      
               When you say "any noun", e.g., I think of proper nouns too.  But I   
   guess you could say "the Queen Elizabeth II who lives in Buckingham Palace" if   
   there's the remotest possibility someone else has the same name.  The use of a   
   restrictive clause introduced by "who", "which" or "that"... whether expressed   
   or implied... calls for "the".  I think you've got the idea, at any rate.  :-)   
      
      
      
      
   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+   
    * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)   

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