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|    Ardith Hinton to Paul & Alexander    |
|    cat and dog    |
|    12 Dec 14 23:56:04    |
      Recently Alexander wrote in a message to Paul Quinn:               PQ> There are no errors in the report at the URL that you        PQ> cited. The references to "cat" & "dog" are as a general        PQ> classification of the animal type. Not specific animals.                      So far, so good... I can't disagree with anything you've said there.       After he'd done some more research on his own, however, Alexander was confused       by the word "classification". Not to worry! As a teacher I've often had much       the same experience. Okay... so we'll try again. In context the person being       interviewed is referring to the *meat* of these animals. We generally measure       by weight and/or by volume food items which are deemed to be uncountable. You       may have xxx number of packets of meat, fish, or fowl in the freezer... but as       Mark says, you don't necessarily know how many individual animals your chicken       wings came from. What you do know is that they cost yyy per pound or per kilo       where you live. And while it is interesting to hear that one barleycorn = one       gram I don't know anybody who counts barleycorns when they're making a stew or       brewing a batch of beer. Others measure barley in fistfuls or sackfuls. :-))               # # #               Now... is that clear? Maybe not. I reckon some clever student from       Russia will ask why that kid they read about in the New Testament brought five       loaves & two small fishes (plural) in his lunch bag, and what Mrs. Hinton says       when she has two or three varieties of sliced deli meat in the fridge.... ;-)                             ak> "The definite article is used in front of countable nouns        ak> representing a whole class or category of something."                      Note... "The definite article". In English there is only one, thank       goodness. In more highly inflected languages there may be several. :-)               I refer to "the comma" (e.g.) the same way.                             ak> The blue whale is thought to be the largest animal ever to        ak> have lived. The computer has changed our lives.                      Uh-huh. And here's another example:               As a friend to the children commend me the Yak.        You will find it exactly the thing:        It will carry and fetch, you can ride on its back,        Or lead it about with a string.        The Tartar who dwells on the plains of Thibet        (A desolate region of snow)        Has for centuries made it a nursery pet.        And surely the Tartar should know!        Then tell your papa where the Yak can be got,        And if he is awfully rich        He will buy you the creature - or else he will not.        (I cannot be positive which.)               -- Hilaire Belloc                      David Appleyard is apparently reporting on what we do... in much the       same way I would. As to *why* we do it, I don't know of any rules about that.       But I can see that while it may be theoretically possible to count every whale       in all the world's oceans or every occurrence of the comma in recorded history       it isn't really practical. I figure we make exceptions in such cases.... ;-)                                   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)    |
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