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|    Ardith Hinton to alexander koryagin    |
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|    24 Jan 14 23:56:08    |
      Hi, Alexander! Awhile ago you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:               ak> I know that some people have difficulty to tell the        ak> gerund from the Present Participle. Indeed, both forms        ak> look equally. I read some materials on this account:               ak> The gerund is used to produce noun phrases. Participles        ak> are used to produce adjectival or adverbial phrases.                      Okay. Sounds to me like a good rule of thumb.... :-)                             ak> [I like eating cakes.]        ak> Here eating is a gerund; the verb phrase "eating cakes"        ak> serves as a noun, being the object of the main verb "like".               ak> [I saw him eating a cake.]        ak> Here "eating" is a present participle; the verb phrase        ak> "eating a cake" serves as an adjective, modifying him.                      Hmm... although I'm not totally comfortable with the "serves as an       adjective" bit there, I can't offer a better explanation. Either way, I agree       that "eating" is a participle in this context. Let's try an easier example:                      "My Mary's asleep by thy murmuring stream"... [Robert Burns].               There's no doubt in my mind that Burns was using "murmuring" as an       adjective. Now, with a bit of local flavour from southwestern BC:               Mosquito Creek, in North Vancouver, may seem to be an innocently        babbling brook for much of the year. However, the large expanse        of bare rocks on either side is a reminder that it can also be a        raging torrent during spring runoff.               Umpteen years & thousands of miles apart, Burns & I are apparently       on the same wave length WRT certain aspects of English usage at least.... :-)                             ak> [Trying to get over the fence, he hurt his knee.]        ak> Here "trying" is a present participle; the verb phrase        ak> "trying to get over the fence" has the function of an        ak> adverb in the main clause.                      Yes, it tells the reader about the time & place of the main event.       But unless it's turned into a subordinate clause, e.g. "while he was trying to       climb over the fence", I'd say there is only one clause in this sentence. ;-)                             ak> Another explanations:               ak> [Catching fish is fun.]        ak> Here "catching" is a gerund; it takes an object (fish),        ak> like the verb "catch".               ak> [Shouting loudly is enjoyable.]        ak> Here "shouting" is a gerund; it is modified by the adverb        ak> "loudly," like the verb "shout".                      It seems to me that both the participle & the gerund are regarded as       verbs on some level, and are therefore modified by adverbs or adverb phrases:                      I like eating cakes after dinner.               Cruising slowly down the Volga in calm weather sounds enjoyable.               Struggling valiantly to climb the fence, he hurt his knee.               I heard him noisily slurping his soup.                      Anyway, you've given us (bad pun!) food for thought. Thankyou. :-)                                   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)    |
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