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   alexander koryagin to Ardith Hinton   
   3xHa!   
   05 Jan 14 13:22:13   
   
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   From: "alexander koryagin"    
      
   F2EP   
   Hi, Ardith Hinton! How are you?   
   on Sunday, 05 of January, I read your message to alexander koryagin   
   about "3xHa!"   
      
      
    AH> [quoting a message from several years ago]   
    AH>> I can't imagine how anyone could gather all rules from all schools   
    AH>> without consulting Fowler's MODERN ENGLISH USAGE or the BBC NEWS.   
      
    AH> Would I say a thing like that? Yes, I would. :-))   
      
    AH> Anne  Stilman  offers  very  little  information  WRT  the  use  of   
    AH> quotation marks  in  British  English.  But  I  think  both  she  &   
    AH> Geraldine Woods are probably writing for North Americans  who  want   
    AH> short, snappy answers like "foreigners do it backwards" so they can   
    AH> get on with the next topic. For those who are ready to learn more I   
    AH> suggest MODERN ENGLISH USAGE or MODERN AMERICAN USAGE.... :-)   
      
      I remember, that I said to you that if a punctuation guide is thicker   
   than 350 papers it will not be read at  all.  Such  books  are  not  for   
   people. ;-)   
      
      BTW:  I used a reported speech.  Should I shift verbs' time like this   
   (is->was and will->would):   
      I remember,  that I said to you  that  if  a  punctuation  guide  was   
   thicker than 350 papers it would not be read at all.   
      
      IMHO,  I should not.  I mean a general truth,  not the thickness of a   
   book in the past.   
      
      
      
    AH> author wants to quote a  response  which  includes  more  than  one   
    AH> paragraph it's treated in the  same  way  as  well.  The  quotation   
    AH> begins with a quotation mark.  All subsequent  paragraphs  included   
    AH> within the same quotation begin  with  quotation  marks.  The  last   
    AH> paragraph ends with a quotation mark so we know it's someone else's   
    AH> turn.   
      
   It look like this (the end of "Heart of darkness", by Conrad):   
      
   -----Beginning of the citation-----   
   ...   
      
   "'Repeat them,' she said in a heart-broken  tone.  'I  want  --  I   
   want -- something -- something -- to -- to live with.'   
      
      "I was on the point of crying at her, 'Don't you hear them?' The dusk   
   was repeating them in a persistent whisper all around us,  in a  whisper   
   that seemed to swell menacingly like the first whisper of a rising wind.   
   'The horror! The horror!'   
      
      "'His last word -- to live with,' she murmured. 'Don't you understand   
   I loved him -- I loved him -- I loved him!'   
      
      "I pulled myself together and spoke slowly.   
      
      "'The last word he pronounced was -- your name.'   
      
      "I heard a light sigh,  and then my heart stood still,  stopped  dead   
   short by an exulting and terrible  cry,  by  the  cry  of  inconceivable   
   triumph and of unspeakable pain. 'I knew it -- I was sure!'... She knew.   
   She was sure. I heard her weeping; she had hidden her face in her hands.   
   It seemed to me that the house would collapse  before  I  could  escape,   
   that the heavens would fall upon my  head.  But  nothing  happened.  The   
   heavens do not fall for such a trifle. Would they have fallen, I wonder,   
   if I had rendered Kurtz that justice which was his due?  Hadn't he  said   
   he wanted only justice? But I couldn't.  I could not tell her.  It would   
   have been too dark -- too dark altogether...."   
      
      Marlow ceased, and sat apart, indistinct and silent, in the pose of a   
   meditating Buddha.  Nobody moved for a time.  "We have lost the first of   
   the ebb," said the Director, suddenly. I raised my head.  The offing was   
   barred by a black bank of clouds,  and the tranquil waterway leading  to   
   the uttermost ends of the earth flowed somber under an overcast  sky  --   
   seemed to lead into the heart of an immense darkness.   
   -----The end of the citation-----   
      
      
   [...]   
   Bye Ardith!   
   Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91   
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