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|    Ardith Hinton to alexander koryagin    |
|    3xHa!    |
|    31 Dec 13 00:24:47    |
      Hi, Alexander! Recently you wrote in a message to Ardith Hinton:              [quoting a message from several years ago]        AH> I can't imagine how anyone could gather all rules        AH> from all schools without consulting Fowler's        AH> MODERN ENGLISH USAGE or the BBC NEWS.                      Would I say a thing like that? Yes, I would. :-))               Anne Stilman offers very little information WRT the use of quotation       marks in British English. But I think both she & Geraldine Woods are probably       writing for North Americans who want short, snappy answers like "foreigners do       it backwards" so they can get on with the next topic. For those who are ready       to learn more I suggest MODERN ENGLISH USAGE or MODERN AMERICAN USAGE.... :-)               ...               Anyway, your concern here was about what to do when using italics is       definitely not an option. I'll start with lengthy quotations because you need       to cite various people's writings in this echo from time to time. In academic       circles it's customary to indent each line when quoting three lines or more...       and leave an equal number of extra spaces at the right margin. I do that when       I'm quoting songs or poetry which I don't want messed up by a line wrap. I've       seen indentation & italics used together in various recent (and not-so-recent)       non-fiction books, but the indentation will suffice if you don't have italics.               In novels where there's a lengthy dialogue between two people & it's       obvious who said what the attribution may be omitted. But quotation marks are       used the same way they would be if the attribution was included.               The "he said -- she said" stuff sounds boring after awhile. Another       alternative is to use synonyms for "said". By way of example, I often pointed       out to my students how creative sports announcers & reporters can be when they       want to say something more engaging than "defeated". Just don't count on such       people to get their verb tenses straight, in the heat of the moment... [grin].               In newspaper & magazine articles where the columns are narrow it may       be undesirable... but is usually also unecessary... to indent long quotations.       Although such works are classified as non-fiction, the quoted material is more       likely to be derived from (e.g.) interviews &/or speeches than from historical       documents or from Shakespeare's plays. If it's interjected with narrative, as       it would be in a novel, it's treated in the same way. And if the author wants       to quote a response which includes more than one paragraph it's treated in the       same way as well. The quotation begins with a quotation mark. All subsequent       paragraphs included within the same quotation begin with quotation marks. The       last paragraph ends with a quotation mark so we know it's someone else's turn.               ...               That is probably about enough for now. I'll continue later.... :-)                                   --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+        * Origin: Wits' End, Vancouver CANADA (1:153/716)    |
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