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From: "alexander koryagin"
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Hi, Ardith Hinton! How are you?
on Monday, 30 of December, I read your message to alexander koryagin
about "Winamp version"
DM>> How this programmes named?
ak>> How these programs are named?
AH> Yes, "this" is singular and "these" is plural. However... The usual
AH> way of asking such a question in English would be to say "How are
AH> these program(me)s named?" or "What are these program(me)s called?"
AH> While your version is acceptable I think most native speakers would
AH> probably reserve it for situations in which they're paraphrasing
AH> because they want to make sure they understand what the other
AH> person is saying. I imagine questions are handled a bit differently
AH> in Russian. :-)
Most Russians who learn English (me included) have never had good
talking practice and they often don't understand or forget that the
melody of an English phrase is very important. When an Englishman hears
"how are" he instantly expects to hear a question, even if "how are" was
uttered almost inarticulately. That's why, I believe, my "how these
program are named" sounds unnaturally. ;-) Unknown melody.
ak>> IMHO, as I heard it: a programme is a plan, or a description paper
ak>> given in a theater. a program is a piece of software.
AH> A qualified "yes", i.e. depending on the dialect.... :-)
AH> According to oxforddictionaries.com, "program" is the "US spelling
AH> of PROGRAMME (also widely used in computing contexts)."
As programming was born in the US, people around the world, probably,
started to speak "program" when they speak of a computer program. Except
the French who hate English and prefer to use their "programme".
Probably Canadians don't like Americanisms either. ;)
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Bye Ardith!
Alexander (yAlexKo[]yandex.ru) + 2:5020/2140.91
fido7.english-tutor 2013
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