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   alexander koryagin to Paul Quinn   
   Re: slang   
   14 Dec 13 20:38:20   
   
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   From: alexander koryagin    
      
   Hi, Paul Quinn!   
   I read your message from  13.12.2013 20:10   
   about slang.   
     MD>> I've encountered such a phrase: "Betchya woulda forgot that   
     MD>> one".   
      
     PQ> Spoken by an Englishman or Australian?   
     MD>> Do I understand it correctly that it means "I bet you would   
     MD>> forget that one"?   
      
     PQ> Very close, Michael.  It's more likey "I bet you would have   
     PQ> forgotten that one".  (The "a" attached to the word "would" is   
     PQ> a clue, as it gives the short sound of the word "have", and,   
     PQ> therefore the tense.)   
      
   I read that "got/gotten and forgot/forgotten" have similar tendencies,    
   and "forgot" is used instead of "forgotten" more frequently now in the US.   
   http://www.englishpage.com/irregularverbs/info.html#9   
      
   If you'd like to look at the original document:   
   http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/strace.1.html   
      
   --------------------------   
   STRACE(1)                  General Commands Manual                 STRACE(1)   
   NAME         top   
           strace - trace system calls and signals   
   SYNOPSIS   
   ...   
   DESCRIPTION   
   ...   
   OPTIONS   
   ...   
      
           -e trace=file   
                       Trace all system calls which take a file name as   
                       an argument.  You can think of this as an   
                       abbreviation for   
                       -e trace=open,stat,chmod,unlink,...  which is   
                       useful to seeing what files the process is   
                       referencing.  Furthermore, using the abbreviation   
                       will ensure that you don't accidentally forget to   
                       include a call like lstat in the list.  Betchya   
                       woulda forgot that one.   
   --------------------------   
      
   PS: And anyway, IMHO, the phrase is strange. I would say it this way,    
   tell me why not:   
   [...it will ensure that you don't accidentally forget to include a call    
   like lstat in the list.  I bet you've forgot(en)that one.]   
      
   or even:   
   I bet you forgot that one. (in the past)   
      
   Why on earth he says "WOULD have forgot(en)"? Here it is an example of    
   the correct phrase with "would have [pp]"   
      
   [If I had been told of it more often in school I wouldn't have forgotten    
   that rule.]   
      
   Bye, Paul!   
   Alexander Koryagin   
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