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|    alexander koryagin to Roy Witt    |
|    from Russian again    |
|    01 Jan 70 00:00:00    |
      Hi, Roy Witt!       I read your message from 10.06.2013 07:13       about from Russian again.               AH>>> As native speakers of English you & I would probably say        AH>>> "astronaut". Although some sources define "cosmonaut" simply as        AH>>> "astronaut", the majority of my usual references define it as "a        AH>>> Russian astronaut".               ak>> Well, but the USSR was the first in space, so its term "cosmonaut"        ak>> is a registered term next to "sputnik." Beside this, "astronaut"        ak>> IMHO is too pompous and incorrect word.               RW> Astro has been in use for centurys, as in astrology and many other        RW> endeavors.               In Russian understanding, when we use ending "naut" we imply that a       person travels somewhere, and the first part of the word tells us where.       For instance, an aeronaut - a person traveling in air; an aquanaut, in       water; an astronaut - a person traveling between stars (that's why it       is, for a while, an incorrect term). An alconaut - is a person who       drinks often. ;=)               Accordingly, if a spaceship travels between planets we call it       "planetolet" - a planetprobe vehicle; if it flies between stars we call       it "zvezdolet" (a starprobe vehicle).               RW> Whoever heard of the term, cosmostrolgy, being used to describe the        RW> practice of astrology?               Well, IMHO cosmos is a more general term. After leaving the Earth,       and we are in cosmos. We can orbit the Earth, we can (theoretically) fly       to any part of the Universe - so cosmonaut is a more correct term. It is       too earlier (and IMHO because of this funny) to call themselves       astronauts.               AH>>> "Astronaut" is certainly in more common use where I come from. It        AH>>> is less specific than "cosmonaut", and thus we may have to        AH>>> qualify it sometimes... but I wouldn't go so far as to say        AH>>> "cosmonaut" is incorrect. I guess Alexander is more familiar with        AH>>> the Russian word.        ak>> If in Russia we tell a space story we always call the American        ak>> guys as astronauts, but the Russian guys are always cosmonauts.        ak>> Maybe the Russian people know astronomy well, and they think that        ak>> "astronaut" sounds funny comparatively with the distance of modern        ak>> space flights.        RW> Were they among the 3 Kings that traveled by star to Bethlehem?               But they didn't fly between stars.               AH>>> The advantage of using "astronaut" is that there is no confusion        AH>>> over what the author meant; the disadvantage is that we may need        AH>>> to use at least one more word to indicate the country. OTOH, the        AH>>> advantage of using "cosmonaut" is its economy; the disadvantage        AH>>> is that it may mean different things to different people. If a        AH>>> cosmonaut = a Russian astronaut, "Russian cosmonaut" is a serious        AH>>> redundancy which I'd (basically) treat as an error. Until there's        AH>>> more general agreement as to the definition of "cosmonaut",        AH>>> however, I'll let it pass. :-))        ak>> "Russian cosmonaut" is as correct as "Russian/American sputnik".        RW> I'd believe Russian Sputnik... Americans used Freedom to name our        RW> 1st space vehicles. Freedom 7 carried Alan Shepard into space. He        RW> was also the first man to walk on the Moon.               "Sputnik" is not a name. "Sputnik" is just a Russian word meaning       "satellite." Both words are interchangeable. The first Russian sputnik       had no name, just number 1. Today, when in the USA they launch a       satellite we read in our news that the Americans launched a sputnuk.               RW> PS - The first man in space was Joseph Kittinger - in a balloon        RW> (USA) 8^)               But space is above 100 km? Isn't it?              Alexander Koryagin       ENGLISH_TUTOR 2013              --- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox        * Origin: Quinn's Post - Maryborough, Queensland, OZ (3:640/384)    |
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