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   Hello All!   
      
   Messages reporting that an echo HAS expired is is due to be deleted is not   
   actually correct in that the echo is transferred over to BACKBONE from ELIST   
   and that the moderator on record will change to elistmaint.   
      
   elistmaint does NOT actually do any moderating but is assigned as that is the   
   way the Elist software works in order not to lose the echo.   
      
   This may mean that some echos's that are now dead of traffic should be Deleted   
   - at least of effective (meaning no user postings but could be postings of   
   rules or an 'Anyone here' message) traffic.  These type of postings should be   
   ignored in working out if the echo is dead as such clearly do not signify that   
   it is active.   
      
   If an echo is in fact dead of traffic and has been for some time such as 12   
   months etc, then a ELIST reader can report this fact here so if no one says   
   otherwise (traffic wise) then the echo can be deleted by the Elist maintainer   
   - currently myself.   
      
   This helps to keep the BACKBONE list as up to date as possible with minimum   
   effort while also helping to double check if an echo is dead as there can   
   always be a break in connectivity for some BBS systems.   
      
   So Posting a request HERE, will allow others to verify that their system is   
   also showing a dead echo. Clearly any one who actually has read traffic can :   
      
   1. Examine Echo in question to verify this, excluding postings of Rules or   
   anyone here etc as they do NOT count as real traffic.   
      
   2. Report an echo that does have traffic where we can request their uplink   
   details and the path information to see what they have a disconnect for that   
   echo.   
      
   It all helps in trying to maintain successful Echo systems.   
      
   While this is really geared for Fidonet it can be used for any other network   
   using this facility such as FSXNET etc. We all lead some times busy lives and   
   do not always keep up to date with echo traffic so this function will help us   
   all.   
      
   .. and yes I know I have repeated some elements of the explanation but that is   
   to help insure that one one misses it :)   
      
   Vincent   
      
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