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   Elistmaint to All   
   Elist Usage and Help   
   01 Dec 22 00:30:01   
   
   MSGID: 2:25/21@fidonet 6251ead6   
   PID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)   
   CHRS: UTF-8 4   
   TZUTC: 0000   
   TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)   
                               ELIST Maintenance Program   
                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
      
   This document is to show the basic format what is needed to submit a MOD-ADD   
   or MOD-UPD or a rules file submission to the elist maintainer at   
   2:25/21 using a file, Only, at least for the moment.   
      
   All keyword are formed as two primary elements where the first is the   
   keyword itself followed by space then the next element that will depend on   
   the keyword itself.   
      
   There are a few keywords that MUST always be used and are therefore mandatory   
   for all submissions.   
      
   These are listed below (along with all others) and marked by an * at the   
   beginning of the keyword name. The keywords consist of two segments, the   
   characters that are tested for, in upper case (capitalised) and the remainder   
   in lower case, that makes them more readable.   
   You must always supply the characters in capitals, the rest are ignored.   
      
   References to Xnn means the maximum size in characters of the field after the   
   keyword, i.e.,   
       X75 means you can use up to 75 characters a to z, A to Z and 0 to 9 with   
           full stop, comma and hyphen ( - ) etc.   
      
       Using larger will, at best mean that any characters outside the limit will   
       be ignored and at worst will result in a error report and the submission   
       being rejected.   
      
       The entire content of the submission is examined and all errors and   
       warnings noted where at the end, any such problems are reported in the   
       ELIST echo and sent direct using the supplied netmail address in the FROM   
       keyword.  As and when email support is added, a error message will also be   
       sent to the supplied email address using the FROM keyword.   
      
   List of keywords that can be used in any submission, the first block are the   
   one's that MUST be always supplied in the suggested order.   
      
   KEYWORDS in use  (where characters in UPPER CASE are relevant) in form of :   
      
   KEYWord {one or more spaces}  Sub keyword or other text   
      
      
     Keyword        Sub keywords or other text   
     -------        --------------------------   
      
   Always Required:   
      
     *SUBJect       MOD-UPD or MOD-ADD or MOD-DEL   
                    When Netmail and emails submissions are accepted   
                    MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD or MOD-DEL must be in the message subject   
                    line - hence one of the reasons for the need of this keyword.   
      
     *GROUP          X36.  Warning some older BBS systems may not    
   support   
                    areatag names longer than 8 - 16 characters.   
      
     *FROM            See lower for the format of this.   
                    Details of the sender of message where any replies regarding   
                    errors or confirmation of status of submission is made to.   
                      X72.   
      
     *DESCription    A maximum of 15 lines where the    
   text   
                    is a maximum of 75 characters long (not including the keyword   
                    'DESC'). Do not provide any usage rules see RULETEXT.   
      
                    As of elist v5.3 a description file can be submitted in the   
                    same manner as a .RUL file in that a file containing the   
                    contents of the DESC keyword but without the keyword can be   
                    supplied where the file name is in the format of :   
                    AAA.BBB.DES  Where AAA = from the GROUP keyword,   
                                       BBB = EchoTag name   
                                       Followed by '.DES' { but without the    
   quote'}   
                    This file only needs to be submitted for a MOD-UPD if there   
                    is any changes from the one currently in use or for an echo   
                    in the BACKBONE lists (BACKBONE.NA or .RPT).   
      
     *MODerator     Contact Address.  See lower for the format of this.   
                    This keyword MUST be submitted before any COMODn keywords.   
                    For COMODn see more information below.   
      
     *LANG          Language used in this echo X16 (Default is ENGLISH).   
                    Should always be provided. Not every one reads English :)   
                    This must be the primary language name only as other software   
                    may search for it. This is ONE Word so it can be used with   
                    other software.   
      
     *PASSword      ,   X36, X36.   
                    [Note the required space after the comma (',') if new   
                    password is used.]   
                    Any standard characters can be used and is case sensitive   
                    ABCD  is NOT the same as aBcD.   
      
   The following keywords can be used as required for the specific echo.   
      
      RULEs          X36 { NOTE SIZE CHANGE    
                    Can also be DELETE | NONE | spaces   
                    DELETE will remove any existing rule file and then be treated   
                           as if NONE was supplied.   
                    NONE   There are no rules for this echo.   
                    The same as if the keyword is not supplied.   
                    Can be omitted, but also see RULETEXT.   
                    If both RULES and RULETEXT are omitted then there are no    
   rules   
                    If both are supplied, the content from RULETEXT overrides.   
                    NOTE that the above symbol '|' means or, i.e., a choice.   
                    For a multi line set of rules see keyword RULETEXT.   
      
      COMODn        Where n = 1, 2, 3 or 4.   
                    Next word/s    
                    See below for more details of the format for this.   
                    This keyword REPLACES the old keyword COMOD and should be   
                    placed anywhere after the MOD keyword.   
                    It's usage allows the moderator to control precisely where   
                    each Co-Moderator sits in the list of four Co-Mods.   
                    Next word can also be DELETE which will clear all contact   
                    information for that Co-Moderator position.   
      
                    [ The COMOD keyword has been removed.]   
      
      VOLume           nnnn per month. X4   
                    Use a realistic number. Anything after the number is   
                    ignored as per month is automatically assumed.   
                    This is only used to show a number in the ELIST.RPT   
                    otherwise serves no real use.   
      
      RESTrictions   (only first four letters   
                            are needed) and/or other text>  X72.   
                    You can have one, two or all three of these predefined   
                    values and you can add additional text at the end   
                    an example is :   
                    /SYS  Region 1234 write access only.   
      
                    The following are accepted :   
                    /REAl    [ Real Names only ]   
                    /SYS     [ SYSops only ]   
                    /MOD     [ Moderators (and Co-Mods) only) ]   
                    NONE     or Blank - No restrictions - Use NONE to remove any   
                             others present and make it NONE.   
                    The  restrictions can be cumulative, i.e., you could have   
                    /REL /SYS /MOD which implies:   
      
                    Only for moderators who have a registered nodelist entry and   
                    they must use their real names.   
      
                    Do not use the other additional descriptions in the [ ] as   
                    these get created for the ELIST.RPT and the posted report    
   into   
                    the ELIST echo after each echo update.   
      
      ORIGin          X36.   
                    More used in the days where almost all posts originated   
                    from one Netmail address, otherwise a bit redundant.   
      
      DISTribution   Any text describing X72.   
      
      GATEway            Any text describing X72.   
      
      CHARSet        {, Language Character set } X16   
                    One or more character sets used for a specific language other   
                    than English. If more than one specified separated by a    
   comma.   
                    This is to offer extra support when the language used needs   
                    special char sets to support it such as for accents etc.   
                    Use sets for both Windows, Linux & other *nix based systems.   
                    Also see keyword LANG.   
                    E.g.,  UTF32, UTFabc,CP987,CP1094   
      
      RULETEXT         
                    MUST be the LAST Keyword that finishes with the end line    
   '---'   
                    or '-+-'.  X75 wide but NO line limits - as many as you need.   
                    This will generate a file as TAGname.RUL.   
      
                    It will be treated exactly the same as a .RUL file and will   
                    in fact create one, replacing any existing rules file.   
                    Any and all lines even if consisting of spaces will be   
                    included.   
      
                    Note you can submit a .RUL file at any time whenever there   
                    is a change of text.   
                    There is no need to also supply a MOD-UPD.   
      
      HELP             
                    The latest version of the longer help file !   
      
      ---           Or "-+-" terminates a RULETEXT keyword block.   
                    Also useful as you can place other text after, such as   
                    unused keywords, as they will be totally ignored.   
      
      #             Comment text, Ignore rest of the line.   
             a Line starting with a space will also be ignored.   
      
      
   Contact Address   
   ===============   
      
         This information is the next word group after the following keywords:   
         FROM, MOD, COMODn.   
      
         Formed of three elements where the first two are required, and all   
         separated by commas in the form:   
      
         < - Element one - > < - - - - - Element two - - - -  > < Element three >   
         FirstName LastName, Zmmmm:Nmmmm.Kmmmm {.Pmmmm}{@Demain}{, email@address}   
         Z = zone, N = Net, K = Node with {optional P = Point or/and Domain}.   
         mmmm = A number between 0 and 4095.   
      
         The first two are required for responses posted to ELIST and if errors   
         or expiry warnings also issued direct to the network address of the   
         MOD  and to all Comod's if the warning # is above 1.   
         Point and domain are totally optional and are not required.   
         Note the leading commas are required for elements 2 and 3.   
         If the leading comma is not present the next set of address data will   
         be ignored and will not produce an error report.   
              {} Signify an optional parameter.   
              You can use the characters {at}  or  =at= in place of the @ in the   
              email address. They will be replaced by the @ symbol.   
              Support for Email is not yet available.   
              Support for receiving submissions via Netmail other than as files   
              is not yet available but you CAN use Netmail file attachments and    
   if   
              used there is no need to place anything in the body of the message   
              as it is totally ignored.   
      
      
   For HELP (to be sent via Netmail, no other keywords are needed other than FROM   
   but the file must have the .ECO extension but the name could be anything.   
   You will be sent the current version of file elisthlp.txt which may well go   
   into more detail than this document but there again it might not:) and this   
   document should be considered as primary help.   
      
   Notes on RULES Processing:   
   -------------------------   
      
   Rules can be provided in one of two ways,   
      
   1.  Recommended by sending a rules file with the file name of Echo Tag as   
       upper case plus extension of .RUL, i.e., MBSE.RUL   
      
       It can be ANY number of lines but each line must not EXCEED 75 characters   
       but can include blank lines for readability.   
       (the 75 character limit is for those Bulletin Board Systems that have such   
        width restrictions).   
      
   2.  Sending as part of a MOD-ADD or MOD-UPD file where the rules text lines   
       follow immediately after the keyword  RULETEXT  and before the last line   
       which is the terminator '---'   or  '-+-', or the end of the file.   
       Again blank lines can be embedded within the text for readability.   
      
       Note the same text block can be transferred to a ECHOtag.RUL file as is   
       but WITHOUT the terminator line '---' or '-+-'.   
      
       In any event, all RULETEXT content IS transferred to a ECHOtag.RUL file   
       overwriting any existing file. These rule files are stored in the rules   
       directory found inside the on demand / month edition of ERyymmww.zip or   
       ERULyymm.ZIP that are in turn in the archive ELyymmww.zip or ELSTyymm.ZIP.   
       These, along with the files ELST.RPT, ELIST.NA are also included within    
   the   
       top level archive as well as the help file/s.   
      
      
   Further Notes on Submissions   
   ----------------------------   
      
   If your submission has unknown keywords or contains bad data in place of such,   
   the warning message 'EL219 Error Unknown keyword found' followed by the word   
   found.  If the word printed is of a valid word then there are bad characters   
   before, caused by not using a text editor. You must NEVER use any other type   
   of editor and only use a TEXT editor as found on Windows, Linux and other *nix   
   systems.   
      
   For a full list of such messages that can appear as a response of a submission   
   please see the end of this document.   
      
      
   All MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD and MOD-DEL files use the extensions '.ECO'.   
   You MUST include the keyword SUBJ in each of the above i.e., MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD   
   or MOD-DEL.  Note the use of a hyphen.   
      
   These files must be sent as the echo tag name as the filename, for example the   
   echo MBSE the file would be :   MBSE.ECO and if needed, MBSE.RUL for the    
   rules.   
      
   Note that any moderator and this includes a co-moderator can submit a MOD-UPD   
   or MOD-DEL providing they are on record as one, in the echo being changed.   
      
   This is so that if the moderator has a major system problem or leaves the   
   network for any reason, another can take over and send a MOD-UPD submission   
   even as a one off.   
   This method can also be used for a Co-Mod can take over an echo in the event   
   of the Moderator being permanently unavailable. Of course this assumes that   
   all Co Mods have a copy of the current MOD-ADD and/or MOD-UPD and any RULe   
   files including the current password using the keyword PASS.   
   It is recommended that for this reason alone, that all echo's have at least    
   one   
   Co Mod.   
      
   A moderator taking over from a previous one should get the existing moderator   
   to send in a MOD-UPD with their contact address as a CoMODn (1 through 4) and   
   if all are in use just replace or over write one of these entries.   
      
   After that is sent in and acknowledged, the new moderator can send in a update   
   MOD-UPD  containing their contact address details via keywords MOD and with a   
   keyword COMOD1 DELETE to remove the previously created entry.   
   If needed use PASS oldpassword, newpassword to change the existing password.   
      
   This, can be done by sending in two submission files where the file name has a   
   1, 2 etc added to that of the Echo name i.e., MBSE1.ECO MBSE2.ECO as they are   
   processed in alphabetically sorted order.   
      
   The password,  as a one word string with the letters 0 - 9, a - z, A - Z   
   and any standard symbol character as found on a standard keyboard using one    
   key   
   stroke (shift allowed), i.e., no key sequences using the ALT or CTL keys as   
   they can  interfere with file processing and could differ from different   
   keyboards on different platforms, e.g., Windows and Apple's OSX.   
   Do NOT use a space character as that will mark the end of the password.   
   Examples are ¬`!"£$%^&*()_+-=}{[]~@:;'#?><,.   
      
   The password is case sensitive so ABCD is not the same as abcd which is not   
   the same as AbCd.   
     Maximum size is 36 characters.   
      
   Note that the slash keys \ and / MUST not be used in case of file processing   
   using a database such as Mysqld or Mariadb etc and no, they do not like them   
   for some reason.   
      
   Examples for change of moderator - the current moderator (or the new mod on    
   his   
   behalf) sends:   
      
   Submission filename ECHONAME1.ECO   
   SUBJ   MOD-UPD   
   FROM   1:345/6                     <<<<= note this is the current Moderator   
   TAG    ECHONAME   
   PASS   current-password   {can also be current-password, new-password}   
   GROUP  FIDO   
   COMOD1 new moderator Contact address, etc for example :   
   COMOD1 Fred Blogs, 2:234/5, fboggs@gmailcom   
      
   Note the comma separators between each segment.   
   Then the new moderator sends after the previous MOD-UPD has been acknowledged   
   in the echo ELIST:   
      
   Submission filename ECHONAME2.ECO   
   SUBJ MOD-UPD   
   FROM 2:234/5                       <<<<<= This is the new Moderator   
   TAG ECHONAME   
   PASS current-password, new-password   
   GROUP FIDO   
   MOD  Fred_Blogs, 2:234/5  <<< [ Changing the moderator name and address ]   
      
   For subsequent updates then, change PASS to reflect the new password after   
   receiving an acknowledgment message via ELIST or Netmail.   
   Remove the COMOD1 entries, adding any other keywords that require changes   
   if any.   
      
   Expiry Warnings   
   ---------------   
      
   One is issued with the first one sent to the moderator on record and   
   in ELIST after 10 months have lapsed since the last update.   
   This is the reason why the WARN process is not run until all MOD-UPD processes   
   have finished after 23:30 (GMT) on the 1st of the month.   
      
   Next is the Delete warning) is sent to the   
   moderator and all Co-Moderators on record at their registered Netmail address   
   as well as in ELIST.   
      
   If an update has not arrived at the elist maintainer before the end of month 2   
   then the echo WILL be transferred to the BACKBONE system only with elistmaint   
   the new moderator. This is the only way the system can deal with it as a   
   moderator must always exist. The elistmaint will NOT do any moderating.   
      
   Reminder:   
   Any registered moderator including Co-moderators for a given echo can send in    
   MOD-UPD .ECO file and/or a Rules file if a change is needed or the rules need   
   removing by using the correct password.   
      
   Note that the content of a MOD-UPD when updating for the 10 month sequence   
   only requires at a minimum the following keywords :   
      
   FROM   
   SUBJ MOD-UPD   
   TAG ECHONAME   
   PASS Current Password   
   GROUP FIDO   
      
   Providing the contact address in the FROM keyword is one of the registered   
   moderators then the Update will be considered valid proving there is no errors   
   within any keyword or secondary parameters. Note the details MUST be exactly   
   the same in both keywords MOD and FROM.   
      
   Note that each MOD-ADD, UPD or DEL is validated for correctness and if any   
   errors are found, the request is rejected with message/s regarding the   
   problem/s found and sent to the sender's Netmail address (as on the FROM   
   keyword) and the ELIST echo.   
      
   Example for a new echo :   
      
   SUBJ MOD-ADD   
   TAG  MBSE   
   FROM Vincent Coen, 2:250/1   
   MOD Vincent Coen, 2:250/1   
   COMOD1 Fred Bloggs, 1:234/5   
   GROUP FIDO   
   LANG ENGLISH   
   TITL The Linux/FreeBSD/OSX MBSE BBS Support Echo   
   DESC The main aim of this echo is to help provide support and to pass on   
   DESC problems regarding the Mbse BBS system software that runs under Linux,   
   DESC FreeBSD & OSX operating systems between users and the programmers.   
   DIST All Official Fidonet Backbones   
   GATE NONE.   
   VOLume 10   
   ORIG 2:250/1   
   PASS YourPaSsWord   
   REST /Real   
      
   If just updating in full, replace the above MOD-ADD with MOD-UPD   
      
   If just updating to reset the warnings etc then this will do:   
      
   SUBJ MOD-UPD   
   TAG  MBSE   
   FROM Vincent Coen, 2:250/1   
   GROUP FIDO   
   PASS YourPaSsWord   
      
      
      
   The following is a List of possible error or warning messages   
   -------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   These can appear as a response to a MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD or MOD-DEL submission   
   to the system and hopefully do not need explanations.   
      
   Most messages are preceded by a letter/number combination however a few do not   
   and these are used with other text messages.   
      
   All error messages result in the submission being rejected.   
   Some warnings may not, but it is recommended to fix the problem and resubmit.   
      
   Error EL213 is issued if you attempt to Update a echo that does not exist.   
   Error EL214 is issued if you attempt to Add a new echo when it already exists.   
    These are used to protect if a Moderator was using cut and paste when    
   building   
    a new submission from another echo area and made a mistake with the Echo    
   name.   
      
   ==> WARNing n of n: This Echo is expiring, please Update.   
   Expiration WARNing n.   
      
   EL201 ==> WARNing: Echo has Expired & will be Deleted very shortly.   
   EL202 Error TAGname not specified.   
   EL203 PASSword not specified.   
   EL204 Error Messenger (From) is missing.   
   EL205 Error PASSword validation failed.   
   EL206 ==> Expiration Warnings have been Reset.   
   EL207 ==> Pending Delete has been Cleared.   
   EL208 Error Too many COMODerators (only 4 allowed).   
   EL209 ==> Echo has been Flagged for Deletion.   
   EL210 ==> Rules file { TAG name }   
   { followed by one of these 4 messages ]   
    has been Purged.   
    has been Created.   
    has been Updated.   
    Had error when creating - Deleted.   
      
    ==> Echo Successfully Updated.   
   EL212 Error Missing Mandatory Keywords (FROM, TITL, MOD or SUBJ).   
   EL213 UPD to non existing area - Rejected.   
   EL214 MOD-ADD to existing area - Rejected.   
   EL215 Error Invalid or missing TITLe.   
   EL216 Error Invalid or missing MODerator.   
   ==> Echo successfully Added.   
   EL218 HELP File Requested:   
   EL219 Error Unknown keyword found:   
   EL220 Warning Too many Description lines, Max 15 lines truncated.   
   EL221 TAG {Tag name ]   
    Has been deleted .   
    migrated to backbone   
   EL224 Error missing SUBJect.   
   EL225 Invalid (Co)MODerator given in FROM,   
    Echolist Update.   
   EL228 Error INVALID contact Address in:   
   EL229 Warning Invalid address changed to MODs Name   
   EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:   
   EL231 Ruletext rejected due to other reported errors   
   EL232 Unknown Echo Group   
   EL233 Error GROUP not specified.   
   EL234 Error Invalid SUBJect   
   EL235 Contact name Invalid   
      
   These are warnings only but the process has still completed.   
      
      
   They are usually preceded by the Echo tag name.   
      
      
   I hope the above information will answer any questions you might have but if   
   not, ask in the ELIST or ECHOLIST echos and will if needed update this file.   
      
   Update History:   
    2020/05/01 vbc - Support for new keyword CHARSet, typos & grammar.   
                     Make sure no line exceeds CC 80.   
                     Validate LANG to be primary language name only.   
      
    2020/05/24 vbc - COMOD discontinued   
                     as COMODn (1 - 4) replaces it.   
                     Removed keyword NEWPASS as pointless.   
                     Spelling check run for typo's etc.   
                     Cleaned up grammar and some explanations.   
      
    2021/09/10 vbc - Removed some text for keyword COMOD as now discontinued.   
    2021/11/01 vbc - Changed email address but not yet in use.   
                     Added comment regarding some warming/error messages are   
                     with/without preceding letters/numbers.   
    2022/01/27 vbc - Added extra space between keyword and rest of text matching   
                     5.2.035.   
    2022/02/16 vbc - v5.3 - Removed keyword REPLY-TO and reduced size of RULEs   
                     text to 36 and included note about a .DES {description text   
                     file}.   
    2022/05/05 vbc - Removed a reference for 250/1 as service is 25/21.   
    2022/06/01 vbc - Removed references to REPLY-to keyword - its gone.   
                     Clean up other areas that are out of date such as the life   
                     of a update to 10 months with 1 warning and 1 Delete    
   warning.   
                     Removed references to file .NO as all expiring echo's are   
                     transferred to the BACKBONE lists.   
    2022/10/03 vbc - Texual and grammar clean up.   
      
      
   --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-armv7l)   
    * Origin: Elist Maintainer at 2:25/21 (2:25/21)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 18/200 25/0 21 90/1 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131   
   SEEN-BY: 129/305 153/7715 218/700 221/1 226/30 227/114 229/110 111   
   SEEN-BY: 229/112 113 114 206 317 400 424 426 428 470 664 700 250/0   
   SEEN-BY: 250/1 3 4 5 6 8 11 12 263/0 266/512 275/1000 282/1038 292/854   
   SEEN-BY: 317/3 320/219 322/757 342/200 396/45 460/58 467/4 633/280   
   SEEN-BY: 712/848 1321 3634/12   
   PATH: 25/21 250/1 292/854 229/426   
      

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