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   Vincent Coen to All   
   Elist help   
   01 Apr 22 00:00:01   
   
   MSGID: 2:250/1@fidonet 4763a12b   
   PID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8 (Linux-x86_64)   
   CHRS: UTF-8 4   
   TZUTC: 0100   
   TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8 (Linux-x86_64)   
      
                    Quick Help for Moderators   
      
               EList v5.3  -  The Elist program   
              Copyright (c) 2019 - 2022 by Vincent Coen.   
      
      
        Note: The information in this guide was taken from A Moderator's   
        Guide to ECHOBASE (c) Dana Bell, with changes by Ben Ritchey and   
        then customized by Vincent Coen.   
      
        This file may be designated as the file to be sent in response to   
        fatal errors and requests for HELP.   
      
        EList v5 is a database program that maintains a database of   
        echomail conference information.  This particular program was   
        written to meet the need to maintain and distribute echomail   
        conference lists within Fidonet and with other networks.   
      
        The Fidonet Echolist published by this program include ELIST.NA   
        a short, areafix uplink file format distributed monthly,   
        ELIST.RPT, a longer descriptive file distributed on a monthly   
        basis and ELIST.NO a short list of newly deleted echo's on a   
        monthly basis.   
      
        The last file ELIST.NO is now produced, as Ben did not   
        produce it, may be it has out lived it's usefulness how ever.   
        it  will be a rolling list in that it will only contain deleted   
        Echos with any renewed one's at any later date being removed.   
      
        From v5.3 this listing will be discontinued as instaad of deleting echos   
        they will remain on the system but transferred to the BACKBONE system.   
        This makes the .NO file redundant.   
      
        Moderators may add or update entries to the list by writing to   
        ELIST or via Netmail, when these options are available as   
        announced in ELIST.   
      
        Currently such Additions, Updates or Deletions to the Echomail   
        database must be sent as files as ECHOtag.RUL for any rules   
        file and as ECHOtag.ECO as MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD or as MOD-DEL   
        requests and these subjects must also be placed after the keyword   
        SUBJect.   
      
        Once Elist can process Netmail msgs they will be converted to a   
        individual ECHOtag.ECO file and processed the same way without   
        any more changes to the program. It is hoped that the same will   
        apply to Emails   
        The program will read these files and update the EList database,   
        then post a reply to the ELIST conference and via Netmail.   
        (Note: the Reply-to keyword overrides the FROM address if present)   
        otherwise the FROM is always used. I must admit the REPLY-TO keyword   
        is a bit redundant with the usage of FROM so might kill that off at some   
        point.   
      
        Address netmail messages   
      
        To:   ECHOLIST, (2:25/21)   
        Subj: MOD-ADD or MOD-UPD or MOD-DEL   
      
        It is hoped that Updates via Email will be also available some   
        time in the future via elistmaint@gmail.com and this   
        facility will be announced in the ELIST echo area once available   
        along with any update to the email address used as well as usage   
        of netmail to directly deliver such messages instead of using   
        files. This email address is not being monitored at this time.   
      
        NOTE that only dropping off the files tag.ECO and tag.RUL to   
        2:25/21 or 2:250/1   is supported for the moment.   
      
        For the moment delivery of MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD and MOD-DEL messages   
        MUST come as files only, along with any rules file with the   
        following file names :   
        For MOD-ADD, UPD and DEL as echotag.ECO   
        For rules files as echotag.RUL   
        Where echotag is the Echo area tag that is up to 36 characters   
        in length.  Note that for MOD requests you can also add the subject   
        to the end of the extension i.e.,   
        MBSE.ECOMOD-ADD or MBSE.ECOMOD-UPD   
        [ Note that there is NO space between MOO and UPD or ADD only a   
        hyphen. ]   
      
        Use the following keywords to set the fields of your echo list   
        submission and note that only the upper case characters are significant   
        e.g., only SUBJ is needed for SUBJect.   
        All keywords shown starting with * are mandatory - they MUST be provided.   
      
        For keywords FROM, MOD, COMODn and REPLY the following is the format for   
        your contact address where text with {} are optional extras and as    
   needed:   
      
        Contact Address:   
         A1      A2        A3       Sub field class name as used below.   
        , [, ]   Note the separating commas.   
        A1  name = first last names i.e., Fred Bloggs - Compulsory   
                    [ note the space between name elements ]   
        A2  node = zone:net/node {@domain} i.e.,   
                    2:345/678  -  Compulsory.   
        A3  email = name@emailaddress i.e., fbloggs@gmail.com You can use '{at}'   
                    or '=at=' in place of the at sign [@] and this will   
                    be the one used in ELIST reporting once email support is   
                    operational.   
        You may omit the elements between [] but name is needed to respond to   
        an update in the ELIST echo so that a problem or not, can be addressed   
        to the specific poster along with the netmail address for sending a   
        direct message as well. If omitted a posting could be addressed to   
        SYSOP, UNKnown, 'No Idea' and other variations depending on where in the   
        elist program the posting report is issued (helps in debugging).   
        None of which, aids the moderator doing a search on their name to check   
        the latest postings.   
      
    KEYWORDS in use  (where characters in UPPER CASE are relevant) in form of :   
      
    KEYWord {one or more spaces}  Sub keyword or other text   
      
     Keyword        Sub keywords or other text   
     -------        --------------------------   
      
     *SUBJect       MOD-UPD or MOD-ADD or MOD-DEL   
      
     *FROM          Details of the sender of message where any replies regarding   
                    errors or confirmation of status of submission is made to.   
                     x36.   
      
    +*TITLe           x72.   
      
    +*DESCription    15 lines where the text is a    
   maximum   
                    of 75 characters (not including the keyword 'DESC').   
                    Do not provide any usage rules see RULETEXT.   
      
                    As of elist v5.3 a description file can be submitted in the   
                    same manner as a .RUL file, in that a file containing the   
                    contents of the DESC keyword but without the keyword can be   
                    supplied where the file name is in the format of :   
                    AAA.BBB.DES  Where AAA = from GROUP keyword,   
                                       BBB = EchoTag name   
                                       Followed by '.DES' { but without the '. }   
                    This file only needs to be submitted for a MOD-UPD if there   
                    is any changes from the one cuurently in use.   
      
      RULEs          x36 { NOTE SIZE CHANGE    
                    Can also be DELETE | NONE | spaces   
                    DELETE will remove any existing rule file and then be treated   
                           as if NONE was supplied.   
                    NONE  There are no rules for this echo.   
                    Can be omitted, also see RULETEXT.   
                    If both RULES and RULETEXT omitted then there are no rules.   
                    If both are supplied, the content from RULETEXT overrides.   
                    NOTE that the above symbol '|' means or, i.e., a choice.   
      
    +*MODerator     Contact Address.   
                    This keyword MUST be submitted before any COMODn keywords.   
      
      COMODn        Where n = 1, 2, 3 or 4. This keyword allows   
                    the moderator to control precisely where each   
                    Co-Moderator sits in the list of four.   
                    Next word can be DELETE which will clear all contact   
                    information for that Co-Moderator.   
      
     *PASSword      ,   x36, x36.   
                    [Note the required space after the comma (',')   
                    if new password is used.]   
      
      VOLume           nnnnn per month.   
                    Use a realistic number. Anything after the number is   
                    ignored as per month is automatically assumed.   
      
      RESTrictions   (only first four letters   
                            are needed) and / or text>  x72.   
                    You can have one, two or all three of these predefined   
                    values and you can add additional text at the end   
                    an example is :   
                    /SYS  Region 1234 write access only.   
      
      ORIGin          x36.   
                    More used in the days where almost all posts originated   
                    from one netmail address.   
      
      DISTribution   Any text describing x72.   
      
      GATEway            Any text describing x72.   
      
     *GROUP          {, Language Character set } X16   
                    One or more character sets used for a specific language other   
                    than English. If more than one specified separated by a    
   comma.   
                    This is to offer extra support when the language used needs   
                    special char sets to support it such as for accents etc.   
                    Use sets for both Windows, Linux & other *nix based systems.   
                    Also see keyword LANG.   
                    E.g.,  UTF-8. UTF32, UTFabc, CP987, CP1094 etc.   
      
      RULETEXT        MUST be   
                    the LAST Keyword that finishes with the end line '---'   
                    or '-+-'  x75 wide but NO line limits - as many as you need.   
                    This will generate a file as TAGname.RUL.   
      
                    It will be treated exactly the same as a .RUL file and will   
                    in fact create one, replacing any existing rules file.   
                    any and all lines consisting of spaces will be included.   
      
                    Note you can submit a .RUL file at any time whenever there   
                    is a change of text.   
                    There is no nead to also supply a MOD-UPD.   
      
      HELP             
                    The latest version of this file !   
      
   Keywords removed with v5.3 -- If present it is ignored.   
      
      REPLY-to      Contact Address.   
                    Usually same as one in keywords MOD or FROM   
                    Note that usage of Email address is optional for all   
                    Keywords that use contact address as shown above   
                    and that the address in the FROM keywords is normally used.   
      
      
    * Means these are compulsory - they must always be supplied.   
      
    + Compulsory as for * but, NOT when modifying an echo (MOD-UPD), i.e., not   
      required.   
      xnn is the maximum size in characters of the field after the keyword.   
      
      
      New Changes to modes of operation:   
      =================================   
      
             #             In the first character position of a line that is NOT   
                           in a RULETEXT block.   
                           The line will be ignored   
      
             Spaces        When not in a RULETEXT block will also be ignored and   
                           is in the first position.   
      
        A minimum example ADD file might have this :   
      
        SUBJ  MOD-ADD   
        TAG   ECHOES   
        GROUP FIDO   
        FROM  Joe Sysop, 1:234/56   
        PASS  password   
        LANG  ENGLISH   
        TITL  FIDONet echoes discussion   
        MOD   Joe Sysop, 1:234/56   
        DESC  Discussions about echoes   
        DESC  and moderators.   
        ---   
      
        Which will create a new echo entry for ECHOES for the FIDO network   
        using the English language created and moderated by Joe Sysop.   
      
      
        A minimum example UPD file with no changes is :   
      
        SUBJ MOD-UPD   
        TAG echo-name   
        GROUP FIDO   
        FROM Joe Sysop, 1:234/45   
        PASS password   
        ---   
      
        Likewise for a DEL file just replace SUBJ with MOD-DEL for the above   
        example. This is actioned during the next expiry warning   
        run   
      
        The keywords are truncated prior to checking, so matching will   
        only be done for the capitalised portion of the keyword.   
        Keywords may be capitalized or lower case.  The following three   
        entries will have the same effect.   
      
        TAG   BOARD_GAMES   
        Tagname BOARD_GAMES   
        tag   BOARD_GAMES   
      
        However the capitalised text in the keyword descriptions above show   
        the elements of a keyword that MUST be supplied regardless of the   
        case supplied in the submission.   
      
        Optionally end the message with --- or -+- (three-dashes or   
        dash, Plus symbol, dash)  indicating the end of the message file.   
        This should be supplied if using keyword RULETEXT otherwise is not   
        needed.   
      
        With the exception of the DESCription field, only one entry is   
        allowed per field.  If multiple entries are included in the text,   
        processing will continue but only the last one will be saved.   
        If you don't have an entry for a field, there is no need to   
        include the keyword (specifying JUST the keyword will   
        erase/blank any existing value(s) for keywords   
        REPLY, REST. DIST, ORIG, GATE.   
        COMODn must use DELETE to remove any existing details for that co-mod.   
      
        Only the GROUP. ECHOtag, SUBJect, FROM and PASSword are necessary   
        for updating.   
      
        Update submissions to the Echolist that don't require any changes   
        may be done by including the above mentioned keywords.   
        Full details already in the database will remain the same.   
        New echos, will again require the above mentioned keywords   
        at a minimum.   
      
        In order to delete an area from the list, you must use the   
        subject MOD-DEL.   
      
        When submitting an entry with the DESC field, be sure to begin   
        each line with DESC and end it as with any other keywords   
        with a hard carriage return.   
      
        Note that there can only be one line with a RULES keyword.   
        For multi line rules use the keyword RULETEXT see below.   
        (Some editors may word wrap all messages and strip carriage   
        returns when saving.  Some of these editors, however, may allow   
        you to force carriage returns by indenting.) Avoid any that use   
        the TAB as it is not honoured and any will be replaced by space.   
      
        Using  RULEs DELETE  will clear content of rules AND delete any   
        existing .RUL file.   
      
        NOTE: blank lines after DESC keyword will RESET everything to   
        null, as with all text based keywords.   
        For RULETEXT, every line is included as is.   
      
        You can insert the content of your Mod Rul text file (just the   
        body of text) on the next and following lines right AFTER the   
        RULETEXT keyword at the END of a MOD UPD submission (naturally   
        for the same Tag name). The content of RULETEXT will create a   
        .RUL with the same Echo tag name (as upper case) followed by the   
        extension .RUL, again in upper case.   
      
      
   The following is a List of possible error or warning messages   
   -------------------------------------------------------------   
      
   These can appear as a response to a MOD-ADD, MOD-UPD or MOD-DEL submission   
   to the system and hopefully do not need explanations.   
      
   Most messages are preceded by a letter/number combination however a few do not   
   and these are used with other text messages.   
      
   All error messages result in the submission being rejected.   
   Some warnings may not, but it is recommended to fix the problem and resubmit.   
      
   Error EL213 is issued if you attempt to Update a echo that does not exist.   
   Error EL214 is issued if you attempt to Add a new echo when it already exists.   
    These are used to protect if a Moderator was using cut and paste when    
   building   
    a new submission from another echo area and made a mistake with the Echo    
   name.   
      
   ==> WARNing n of n: This Echo is expiring, please Update.   
   Expiration WARNing n.   
      
   EL201 ==> WARNing: Echo has Expired & will be Deleted very shortly.   
   EL202 Error TAGname not specified.   
   EL203 PASSword not specified.   
   EL204 Error Messenger (From) is missing.   
   EL205 Error PASSword validation failed.   
   EL206 ==> Expiration Warnings have been Reset.   
   EL207 ==> Pending Delete has been Cleared.   
   EL208 Error Too many COMODerators (only 4 allowed).   
   EL209 ==> Echo has been Flagged for Deletion.   
   EL210 ==> Rules file { TAG name }   
   { followed by one of these 4 messages ]   
    has been Purged.   
    has been Created.   
    has been Updated.   
    Had error when creating - Deleted.   
      
    ==> Echo Successfully Updated.   
   EL212 Error Missing Mandatory Keywords (FROM, TITL, MOD or SUBJ).   
   EL213 UPD to non existing area - Rejected.   
   EL214 MOD-ADD to existing area - Rejected.   
   EL215 Error Invalid or missing TITLe.   
   EL216 Error Invalid or missing MODerator.   
   ==> Echo successfully Added.   
   EL218 HELP File Requested:   
   EL219 Error Unknown keyword found:   
   EL220 Warning Too many Description lines, Max 15 lines truncated.   
   EL221 TAG {Tag name ]   
    Has been deleted .   
   EL224 Error missing SUBJect.   
   EL225 Invalid (Co)MODerator given in FROM,   
    Echolist Update.   
   EL228 Error INVALID contact Address in:   
   EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:   
   EL231 Ruletext rejected due to other reported errors   
   EL232 Unknown Echo Group   
   EL234 Netmail address missing   
   EL235 Contact name Invalid   
   EL236 Invalid/non numeric VOLume   
   EL237 Error Invalid SUBJect   
      
   These are warnings only but the process has still completed.   
      
   EL229 Warning Invalid address changed to MODs Name.   
      
   They are usually preceded by the Echo tag name.   
      
      
   I hope the above information will answer any questions you might have but if   
   not, ask in the ELIST or ECHOLIST echos and will if needed update this file.   
      
      
                     + -------------------------------- +   
        For latest changes also see the document README-Elist where more   
        information may be present to extend these details.   
      
      
        Address any questions to the ELIST controller Vincent Coen at   
        2:250/1, by choice at the Echolist echo itself, [ELIST] or via   
        Email to vbcoen@gmail.com for a faster response.   
      
      
      
      -=:{ End of EListHlp.Txt }:=-   
      
      
      This document last updated :   
      2020/03/24  Vincent Coen, 2:250/1 or vbcoen@gmail.com   
                  Updated content for readability, helpfully.   
      2020/04/12  Tidy up explanations on keywords.   
      2020/04/19  Spelling errors mostly on the original.   
      2020/05/08  Updated version of Elist to current.   
      2021/06/16  Added missing keyword CHARSet and removed changed keywords   
                  as in main text body.   
      2021/09/10  Changed compulsory keywords with modifier + for keywrds not   
                  needed with MOD-UPD.   
                  Included list of warning and error messages.   
      2021/11/01  Added comment regarding some warming/error messages are   
                  with/without preceding letters/numbers.   
      2022/01/27  Aded extra space between keyword and rest of text   
                  matching 5.2.035.   
      2022/02/16  v5.3 - Removed keyword REPLY-TO and reduced size of RULEs text   
                  to 36 and included note about a .DES {description text file}.   
      
      
   --- MBSE BBS v1.0.8 (Linux-x86_64)   
    * Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:250/1)   
   SEEN-BY: 1/123 15/0 18/200 25/0 21 90/1 105/81 106/201 120/340 123/131   
   SEEN-BY: 124/5016 129/305 330 331 153/250 757 7715 203/0 218/700 840   
   SEEN-BY: 220/70 221/0 1 6 226/17 30 227/114 229/110 206 317 400 424   
   SEEN-BY: 229/426 428 664 700 240/1120 5832 250/0 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 10   
   SEEN-BY: 250/11 21 263/0 266/512 267/800 275/1000 280/464 5003 282/1038   
   SEEN-BY: 292/854 8125 301/1 113 310/31 317/3 320/219 322/757 335/364   
   SEEN-BY: 341/234 342/200 396/45 423/120 460/58 633/267 280 281 412   
   SEEN-BY: 633/416 712/848 770/1 100 330 340 772/210 220 230 2452/250   
   SEEN-BY: 3634/12 5058/104   
   PATH: 250/1 301/1 280/464 770/1 633/280 229/426   
      

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