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   Hello Wilfred!   
      
   Tuesday February 01 2022 17:02, you wrote to me:   
      
    > Hi Vincent,   
      
    > On 2022-02-01 13:52:03, you wrote to me:   
      
    >>> Maybe things have changed in the last 30 years or so, but nowadays   
    >>> you don't develop/test in a production environment!   
      
    >>> You could do a final test in the production environment, but then   
    >>> use a "bogus" area name, that doesn't exist, so you don't have to   
    >>> annoy anyone...   
      
    VC>> ADo you mean that the odd 100k+ I received last year for such   
    VC>> was in error   
    VC>>  and the very large businesses were wrong in their practice for   
    VC>> developing for their mainframes and devolved systems ?   
      
    VC>> I think not.   
      
    > Apparently you work in at totally different environment then most   
    > businesses. When we would be doing that on our clients computers we   
    > would be out of business real soon. (And the prices of your tomatos   
    > and other vegetables, in your supermarket would probably be somewhat   
    > higher)   
      
   All clients are very large multi nationals running medium to large mainframes   
   and that includes Banks.   
      
   In the UK and I assume the EU banks have a legal obligation that software have   
   to go though various processes before formal usage and that includes testing   
   that they comply with the specifications in full and satisfy the user needs.   
      
   There are a lot more legal requirements but for my using a Test hat that is    
   the   
   only primary requirement , the rest sit behind.   
      
   I don't deal with small companies !   
      
   Nor one's that do not use mainframes or large server systems.   
      
   Sound like you work for one of the UK banks that have a habit of using s/w    
   that   
   has not been fully tested then unleash to the general public who cannot access   
   their accounts one way or another for days and weeks while they do better and   
   more thorough testing !   
   Oh, I could also add in Airlines as well who tried to save money by releasing   
   too early!   
      
   No customer that I worked on behalf of I am happy to report.   
      
      
   Vincent   
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