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   Message 64 of 461   
   Jeff Snyder to All   
   Welcome To Ancient Rome!   
   07 Nov 10 19:15:00   
   
   Welcome to ancient Rome! Who says that ancient, hedonistic Rome is dead?!   
   Just look at what is happening all across America regarding the gay and   
   lesbian agenda, and you will see that the sinful, fleshly, carnal spirit of   
   ancient Rome is still very much alive.   
      
   As the Apostle Paul wrote concerning the Romans:   
      
   "Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their   
   own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed   
   the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more   
   than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave   
   them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural   
   use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving   
   the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men   
   with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that   
   recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to   
   retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do   
   those things which are not convenient;"   
   Romans 1:24-28, KJV   
      
   The following news article is yet more clear proof that the gays and   
   lesbians are not just a bunch of "innocent victims" who want to be left   
   alone to live their sinful lives in peace. They are in fact a very militant   
   group which is bent on forcing their ungodly lifestyle on young,   
   impressionable children who do not have the wisdom or maturity to know any   
   better, and the U.S. Government is their accomplice in this evil and ungodly   
   scheme.   
      
   This article really upsets me, and it has me burning in my seat!   
      
   The government and the school districts have absolutely no right to be   
   teaching such raw sexual topics to children so young! I am angered, and I am   
   horrified!   
      
      
   In School Efforts to End Bullying, Some See Agenda   
      
   By ERIK ECKHOLM - NYT   
      
   November 6, 2010   
      
      
   HELENA, Mont. -- Alarmed by evidence that gay and lesbian students are   
   common victims of schoolyard bullies, many school districts are bolstering   
   their antiharassment rules with early lessons in tolerance, explaining that   
   some children have "two moms" or will grow up to love members of the same   
   sex.   
      
   But such efforts to teach acceptance of homosexuality, which have gained   
   urgency after several well-publicized suicides by gay teenagers, are   
   provoking new culture wars in some communities.   
      
   Many educators and rights advocates say that official prohibitions of slurs   
   and taunts are most effective when combined with frank discussions, from   
   kindergarten on, about diverse families and sexuality.   
      
   Angry parents and religious critics, while agreeing that schoolyard   
   harassment should be stopped, charge that liberals and gay rights groups are   
   using the antibullying banner to pursue a hidden "homosexual agenda,"   
   implicitly endorsing, for example, same-sex marriage.   
      
   Last summer, school officials here in Montana's capital unveiled new   
   guidelines for teaching about sexuality and tolerance. They proposed   
   teaching first graders that "human beings can love people of the same   
   gender," and fifth graders that sexual intercourse can involve "vaginal,   
   oral or anal penetration."   
      
   A local pastor, Rick DeMato, carried his shock straight to the pulpit.   
      
   "We do not want the minds of our children to be polluted with the things of   
   a carnal-minded society," Mr. DeMato, 69, told his flock at Liberty Baptist   
   Church.   
      
   In tense community hearings, some parents made familiar arguments that   
   innocent youngsters were not ready for explicit language. Other parents and   
   pastors, along with leaders of the Big Sky Tea Party, saw a darker purpose.   
      
   "Anyone who reads this document can see that it promotes acceptance of the   
   homosexual lifestyle," one mother said at a six-hour school board meeting in   
   late September.   
      
   Barely heard was the plea of Harlan Reidmohr, 18, who graduated last spring   
   and said he was relentlessly tormented and slammed against lockers after   
   coming out during his freshman year. Through his years in the Helena   
   schools, he said at another school board meeting, sexual orientation was   
   never once discussed in the classroom, and "I believe this led to a lot of   
   the sexual harassment I faced."   
      
   Last month, the federal Department of Education told schools they were   
   obligated, under civil rights laws, to try to prevent harassment, including   
   that based on sexual orientation and gender identity. But the agency did not   
   address the controversy over more explicit classroom materials in grade   
   schools.   
      
   Some districts, especially in larger cities, have adopted tolerance lessons   
   with minimal dissent. But in suburban districts in California, Illinois and   
   Minnesota, as well as here in Helena, the programs have unleashed fierce   
   opposition.   
      
   "Of course we're all against bullying," Mr. DeMato, one of numerous pastors   
   who opposed the plan, said in an interview. "But the Bible says very clearly   
   that homosexuality is wrong, and Christians don't want the schools to teach   
   subjects that are repulsive to their values."   
      
   The divided Helena school board, after four months of turmoil, recently   
   adopted a revised plan for teaching about health, sex and diversity. Much of   
   the explicit language about sexuality and gay families was removed or   
   replaced with vague phrases, like a call for young children to "understand   
   that family structures differ." The superintendent who has ardently pushed   
   the new curriculum, Bruce K. Messinger, agreed to let parents remove their   
   children from lessons they find objectionable.   
      
   In Alameda, Calif., officials started to introduce new tolerance lessons   
   after teachers noticed grade-schoolers using gay slurs and teasing children   
   with gay or lesbian parents. A group of parents went to court seeking the   
   right to remove their children from lessons that included reading "And Tango   
   Makes Three," a book in which two male penguins bond and raise a child.   
      
   The parents lost the suit, and the school superintendent, Kirsten Vital,   
   said the district was not giving ground. "Everyone in our community needs to   
   feel safe and visible and included," Ms. Vital said.   
      
   Some of the Alameda parents have taken their children out of public schools,   
   while others now hope to unseat members of the school board.   
      
   After at least two suicides by gay students last year, a Minnesota school   
   district recently clarified its antibullying rules to explicitly protect gay   
   and lesbian students along with other target groups. But to placate   
   religious conservatives, the district, Anoka-Hennepin County, also stated   
   that teachers must be absolutely neutral on questions of sexual orientation   
   and refrain from endorsing gay parenting.   
      
   Rights advocates worry that teachers will avoid any discussion of   
   gay-related topics, missing a chance to fight prejudice.   
      
   While nearly all states require schools to have rules against harassment,   
   only 10 require them to explicitly outlaw bullying related to sexual   
   orientation. Rights groups including the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education   
   Network, based in New York, are promoting a federal "safe schools" act to   
   make this a universal requirement, although passage is not likely any time   
   soon.   
      
   Candi Cushman, an educational analyst with Focus on the Family, a Christian   
   group, said that early lessons about sexuality and gay parents reflected a   
   political agenda, including legitimizing same-sex marriage. "We need to   
   protect all children from bullying," Ms. Cushman said. "But the advocacy   
   groups are promoting homosexual lessons in the name of antibullying."   
      
   Ellen Kahn of the Human Rights Campaign in Washington, which offers a   
   "welcoming schools" curriculum for grade schools, denied such motives.   
      
   "When you talk about two moms or two dads, the idea is to validate the   
   families, not to push a debate about gay marriage," Ms. Kahn said. The   
   program involves what she described as age-appropriate materials on family   
   and sexual diversity and is used in dozens of districts, though it has   
   sometime stirred dissent.   
      
   The Illinois Safe Schools Alliance, which runs teacher-training programs and   
   recommends videos and books depicting gay parents in a positive light, has   
   met opposition in several districts, including the Chicago suburb of Oak   
   Park.   
      
   Julie Justicz, a 47-year-old lawyer, and her partner live in Oak Park with   
   two sons ages 6 and 11. Ms. Justicz saw the need for early tolerance   
   training, she said, when their older son was upset by pejorative terms about   
   gays in the schoolyard.   
      
   Frank classroom discussions about diverse families and hurtful phrases had   
   greatly reduced the problem, she said.   
      
   But one of the objecting parents, Tammi Shulz, who describes herself as a   
   traditional Christian, said, "I just don't think it's great to talk about   
   homosexuality with 5-year-olds."   
      
   Tess Dufrechou, president of Helena High School's Gay-Straight Alliance, a   
   club that promotes tolerance, counters that, "By the time kids get to high   
   school, it's too late."   
      
   Only a handful of students in Helena high schools are openly gay, with   
   others keeping the secret because they fear the reactions of parents and   
   peers, students said.   
      
   Michael Gengler, one of the few to have come out, said, "You learn from an   
   early age that it's not acceptable to be gay," adding that he was   
   disappointed that the teaching guidelines had been watered down.   
      
   But Mr. Messinger, the superintendent, said he still hoped to achieve the   
   original goals without using the explicit language that offended many   
   parents.   
      
   "This is not about advocating a lifestyle, but making sure our children   
   understand it and, I hope, accept it," he said.   
      
      
      
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