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|    BOB KLAHN to JEFF SNYDER    |
|    Netanyahu Drives Final Nail Into Coffin    |
|    25 May 11 22:05:14    |
       JS> No doubt you have already seen the photos that were        JS> released regarding Friday's meeting between Israeli Prime        JS> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and U.S. President Barack        JS> Obama.               Nope.               JS> Between Netanyahu's cold, angry stare, and Obama's        JS> tense, reciprocal glare, I don't know which was worse.        JS> Considering the obvious animosity which exists between the        JS> two leaders, not to mention their diametrically opposed        JS> viewpoints regarding how to move forward in the so-called        JS> Middle East peace process, I honestly don't know how they        JS> even managed to remain in the same room with each other,               Netanyahu desperately needs US support. Obama controls that        support, no matter how much BN doesn't like that fact.               JS> much less sit down to a meal together, and hold two hours        JS> plus of discussions. The atmosphere must have been        JS> absolutely electric. I would imagine that most of that        JS> expensive food was left uneaten. Who could possibly        JS> peacefully eat under such conditions, while your worst        JS> critic is sitting across the table from you? Then again,               Well, Obama could if he wanted to, since he holds all the power,        no matter how Netanyahu poses. OTOH, it could be he really is        serious about peace, so that might trouble him.               ...               JS> Since President Obama gave his much-anticipated speech last        JS> Thursday, criticism has indeed been strong. Powerful        JS> Republican politicians, as well as many other American        JS> pro-Israel supporters, have been quick to pounce on        JS> President Obama, due to his firm stance regarding what he        JS> believes must be done in order to achieve peace in the        JS> Middle East.               It also happens to be the position that has been known as the        necessary route to peace in the Middle East for a very long        time, including by a great many Israelies.               **************************************************************************        *In 2008, Then-Israeli Prime Minister Edud Olmert Stated That        Israelis Must "Return To The Core Of The Territory That Is The        State of Israel Prior To 1967."* On the anniversary of the death        of Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated by an Orthodox Jew        opposing the Oslo Accords, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud        Olmert stated: "We must give up Arab neighborhoods in Jerusalem        and return to the core of the territory that is the State of        Israel prior to 1967, with minor corrections dictated by the        reality created since then." From /Haaretz/:        **************************************************************************               Also George W. Bush:                      **************************************************************************               * From Bush's statement during a May 26, 2005, press conference        with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas:               Any final status agreement must be reached between the two parties,        and changes to the 1949 Armistice Lines must be mutually agreed to.        A viable two-state solution must ensure contiguity on the West Bank,        and a state of scattered territories will not work. There must also        be meaningful linkages between the West Bank and Gaza. This is the        position of the United States today; it will be the position of the        United States at the time of final status negotiations.               **************************************************************************               JS> The position he has adopted is obviously not        JS> popular with these people, and never has been, but what        JS> other fair, equitable solutions are there? Continued        JS> occupation is not an option. Neither is a Palestinian State        JS> that is so divided in a physical and geographical sense        JS> that it isn't really even a state, and thus cannot function        JS> properly.               Which, very likely, is Netanyahu's real goal.               JS> Many people no doubt realize that returning to some        JS> semblance of the pre-1967 borders may be the only solution        JS> to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but it is a very        JS> bitter pill to swallow for Jews and pro-Israel supporters        JS> alike. That is why no one is currently offering to lead the        JS> way, other than Obama himself, and his supporters within        JS> his administration. Obviously, that does not include Dennis        JS> B. Ross, who is Israel's favorite American son and loyal        JS> mouthpiece.               IOW, Obama is showing moral courage beyond what anyone expected.               As he did in the killing of OBL.               JS> While the liberal, pro-Jewish press has been quick to heap               As opposed to the conservative pro-Jewish press? The        conservative talking heads and print media have been far more        savage than any liberal press or media.               JS> scathing criticism upon Obama, Israeli Prime Minister        JS> Benjamin Netanyahu has not received equal treatment. So I        JS> must ask, why not? It should be clear to everyone by now        JS> that Netanyahu has driven the last nail into the coffin of        JS> the Middle East peace process. He drew a very firm line in        JS> the sand when he declared the following points:               JS> 1. he will never accept pre-1967 borders.               JS> 2. he will never recognize the Palestinian right of return.               JS> 3. he will never deal with the Palestinian government as        JS> long as Hamas is a part of it.               JS> Based on those remarks, going forward, it is an illusion        JS> and a deception to even refer to it as the Middle East        JS> peace process. Don't kid yourself. There is no peace        JS> process. It is dead in the water, and has been for some        JS> time now.               Maybe. With Obama behind it, he can drive it no matter what        Netanyahu wants.               JS> The Palestinians obviously realize this, which is        JS> why they now intend to approach the United Nations General        JS> Assembly in September. The Israeli leadership habitually        JS> says that they have no peace partner. It seems to me that        JS> based on Netanyahu's remarks, the Palestinians have the        JS> right to say the very same thing. As long as both sides are        JS> so adamant in their positions, any form of further        JS> discussion is absolutely futile at this point. It would        JS> just be more years of fruitless, empty talks which contain        JS> no real substance, and which would lead to nothing concrete.               Hmmm... you seem to be making sense. Frightening.               JS> So what comes next?               JS> If it weren't for the one remaining hope -- perhaps a false        JS> hope -- that the Palestinians have in the United Nations        JS> General Assembly, I wouldn't hesitate to say that the        JS> potential exists for a sudden, steep climb in the level of        JS> violence against Israel.               Nope. For one reason. The Palestinians have never been a        significant force for violence against Israel, and no other        Middle Easter country is going to take up their cause with        violence.               And yes, the Palestinians have never been a significant force        for violence against Israel. All those rockets getting fired,        yet the almost never hit anyone. Whereas, when any real exchange        takes place, Israel kills Palestinians 100 to 1 over Palestinians        killing Israelies. And the Palestinians kill Israelis soldiers        10 to 1 over civilians, whereas Israelies kill Palestinian        civilians 10 to 1 over Palestinian fighters.               JS> In retrospect, intifada number one        JS> and intifada number two might be insignificant compared to        JS> what a third intifada might be like; because it would be        JS> fueled by a total loss of hope on the part of the        JS> Palestinians.               That part does make sense.               JS> If thousands of Palestinians were willing to mass on        JS> Israel's borders a week ago -- even at the risk of facing        JS> death -- imagine if many thousands more did the same thing,        JS> or worse. If the Tunisians, the Egyptians, the Syrians, the        JS> Yemenis and the Bahrainis have been willing to rise up        JS> against oppression, why not the Palestinians? Who knows. If        JS> they don't get what they want from the United Nations come        JS> September, anything could happen, and probably will.               That is quite possible.               JS> I am reminded of some verses that were written by the Old        JS> Testament Prophet Zechariah where he writes the following:               ...               JS> shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy        JS> all the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will               Except that you are not going to see any nations come together        against Israel.               ...               JS> While certain modern Bible teachers claim that the previous        JS> verses are describing our current time, and the situation        JS> in the Middle East, I am not so certain of this. I am more               And you are right.               ...               JS> But my point in sharing the verses from the Book of        JS> Zechariah with you is to say this: Just as Jerusalem became        JS> a burdensome stone and a major problem for the Romans due        JS> to the belligerence of the Jews -- so much so that the        JS> Romans ultimately smashed Jerusalem to bits in 70 AD --        JS> modern Israel and Jerusalem once again weigh heavily on the        JS> minds of many politicians, both in America and abroad.        JS> Despite effort after effort, the years and decades pass,        JS> the Israeli-Palestinian conflict remains unresolved, and        JS> the level of hostility towards Israel continues to grow.        JS> Benjamin Netanyahu is certainly not doing his nation a        JS> favor by publicly displaying such belligerence and        JS> obstinacy. He is an incorrigible hawk who is set in his        JS> ways, and he needs to move out of the way before it is too        JS> late.               Dang you made sense. Stop that!                     BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn              ... Hezbollah in New Orleans? Fanatical killers, but at least they're not FEMA.       --- Via Silver Xpress V4.5/P [Reg]        * Origin: Since 1991 And Were Still Here! DOCSPLACE.TZO.COM (1:123/140)    |
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