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|    Harold Camping's October 21 Prediction 0    |
|    25 May 11 13:24:00    |
      In a previous blog post I stated that I was done talking about this issue;       but after having just read the latest news regarding the misguided, false       prophet Harold Camping, I felt compelled to offer some additional comments       concerning this issue.              As you may have already heard, Harold Camping -- the impresario behind the       Family Radio Network -- is now claiming that May 21st represented an       "invisible judgment day" which only occurred in the Realm of the Spirit.       According to Mr. Camping's new interpretation, the real deal -- that is, the       physical destruction of the Earth -- will occur on October 21st, without a       lead-up time of five months, which supposedly was to have been marked by       global calamities, as he had predicted earlier. For those of you who are not       familiar with the Book of Revelation, while I haven't delved deeply into Mr.       Camping's teachings, I am assuming that he derived the five-month period       from the following verses:              "And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they       should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a       scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death,       and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from       them. And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto       battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces       were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their       teeth were as the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were       breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of       chariots of many horses running to battle. And they had tails like unto       scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt       men five months."       Revelation 9:5-10, KJV              Concerning the physical destruction of the Earth by fire, as I mention in a       number of my own articles which deal with the end of this present world, Mr.       Camping probably had verses such as the following in mind:              "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness;       but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but       that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a       thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great       noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the       works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things       shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy       conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the       day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the       elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his       promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth       righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be       diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless."       2 Peter 3:9-14, KJV              So while some of Harold Camping's beliefs clearly have a Scriptural basis,       nevertheless, like many other people, Christian and non-Christian alike, I       am left flabbergasted by his latest remarks, which he shared in a 90-minute       speech which was broadcast online, as well as via his Family Radio Network.              Mr. Camping has now struck out twice with his 1994 prediction, as well as       with his May 21 prediction. Should we really expect any different from his       October 21 prediction?              Allow me to again share with you a few verses that are found in the Old       Testament, which deal with the office of a Prophet:              "But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I       have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other       gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall       we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in       the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the       thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it       presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."       Deuteronomy 18:20-22, KJV              "And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that       a prophet hath been among them."       Ezekiel 33:33, KJV              So there we see a clear contrast between a true Prophet of God, and a false       prophet who is motivated by his own pride and vanity. Which one does Harold       Camping represent?              At this point, one of the things which is of concern to me -- aside from how       Harold Camping's blunders will affect the overall perception of our faith --       is how Mr. Camping's followers will choose to react to his obvious misstep.       Sadly, having been deceived myself four decades ago when I participated in a       particular organization which likewise set a false date for the Return of       Jesus Christ, I have a good idea regarding how many of his followers will       choose to react. Allow me to share with you a few excerpts from some of my       articles. In part two of my 2010 series entitled "2012 - New Age Deception       And Psychobabble" I note the following:              -----              This is a common reaction with cults and other manipulative groups. In other       words, when a leader is exposed as a false prophet, the more dedicated       followers will simply forgive him for his blunders, wash over his mistakes,       and they will continue to place their faith in his writings, until the time       arrives for them to purchase his next book, which many of them will gladly       do.              -----              In part nine of my 1997 twenty-part series "Nature of the Alien : ET's,       Demons or a Government Plot?" I also state the following:              -----              As I already said, we have heard of similar predictions like these for       decades, from many self-proclaimed prophets, seers, psychics and contactees.       Every single one of them has failed. Of course, as is usually the case, the       leader offers a vague explanation which satisfies the most devoted       followers, and they continue living in their state of delusion. Sometimes,       the date for the predicted UFO landing is moved up, or else the followers       are told that by our own decisions, we humans have helped to change the       course of events. This is exactly what occurred with the Nibiru prediction.       Supposedly, Nibiru was going to arrive in 2003; now it is 2012, according to       a few websites that I have visited.              In short, a plausible excuse for failure is always provided. The psychic,       prophet, seer or channeler must maintain their credibility with their       followers at all cost; and the blind followers are usually quick to forgive       their leader. I speak from personal experience, and have observed this       firsthand. So these people who make predictions of massive UFO landings on a       certain date, or who say that Jesus will be coming back in a particular       year, or who claim that such-and-such will happen on a specified date, are       committing a grave mistake; and it may in fact end up being their own grave,       if they are proven to be wrong.              -----              So while some of Harold Camping's current followers are no doubt very       disappointed, confused, wondering what to do, and in some cases are no doubt       contemplating the abandoning the man -- if they haven't already done so --       nevertheless, there will be a core group of followers who will maintain       undying faith in Camping's words and predictions, because they are just that       deceived, and absolutely nothing will persuade them otherwise.              For those who do choose to leave Camping's fold, I feel very sorry for them;       because while they are making the right choice to do so, I also know from       personal experience that they will continue to be affected by Harold       Camping's teachings for years to come, and they will be plagued with doubts       and confusion. They will in fact be forced to forsake a lot of their       mistaken ideas and beliefs, and will have to rebuild their faith in -- and       understanding of -- God's Word, from the foundation, through a careful       examination of the Scriptures. This will not be an easy task for some of       them, because cult indoctrination is an extremely powerful thing to       overcome. In my case, it took me a full ten years to pretty much rid myself       of my doubts, confusion and most of my mistaken ideas. Allow me to share       with you an excerpt from my 1997 three-part series "Heaven's Gate, Suicide       And Other Death Cults":              ----- Begin Quote -----              It is an established fact that in order for an individual to become a happy,       successful and productive member of any type of regimented society, group or       organization, such as the aforementioned cults, he must first be willing, or       perhaps be induced, to surrender his free will for the supposed good of the       whole. In other words, he must be transformed into an obedient member of the       collective whole. One of the initial stages in this subtle process is to       convince the new recruit that his former value system and/or frame of       reference is wrong. To accomplish this, the new recruit is first made to       doubt the validity of his old way of thinking by showing him its inherent       flaws and weaknesses. To prove this point, the recruiter may point to the       current dismal state of society, and attribute it to following the old way       of thinking. Much of what the recruiter says will indeed be true, and the       new member will find himself readily agreeing with much of the recruiter's       words. At this point of the process, a bridge of trust has begun to form.              [continued in next message]                            Jeff Snyder, SysOp - Armageddon BBS Visit us at endtimeprophecy.org port 23       ----------------------------------------------------------------------------       Your Download Center 4 Mac BBS Software & Christian Files. We Use Hermes II                     --- Hermes Web Tosser 1.1        * Origin: Armageddon BBS -- Guam, Mariana Islands (1:345/3777.0)    |
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