Hello Roy,   
      
   On Tue 2012-Nov-27 13:19, Roy Witt (1:387/22) wrote to Richard Webb:   
      
    RW> Agreed, and, as I understand it, the situation has been   
    RW> corrected.  Were I the mod in question though I'd explicitly state it   
    RW> in my rules what sort of even read-only access is permissible,   
    RW> removing all doubt.   as they say .   
      
   Roy> You, being a bit closer to the mod, should make that point. The   
   Roy> problem being, how to enforce read-only access to that link. Any   
   Roy> downlink, even a 'read-only downlink' can dump the echo onto a point   
   Roy> address and nobody would be the wiser.   
      
   YEs, did make that suggestion, and yes that could be done.   
   However, if somebody puts it up for public access, i.. on   
   the web or something it's pretty obvious somebody is   
   violating one of them thar gentlemens' agreements.   
      
      
   I, for example, when I was feeding Daryl Stout passed the   
   r19 echoes through to him from rc19 with hwom I connect for   
   other purposes.  I passed the r14 stuff through except for   
   14_chat, was always an open echo for users points and   
   anybody within r14 back in the day.  Then after awhile I   
   even passed that one through to him without reading it.   
      
   The unseen point thing though is an old trick, and when I   
   took down my system and was pointing off a buddy for awhile   
   he fed me a lot of sysop restricted echoes as a point, read   
   only of course.  Then when he went dark 3 months later i was calling ld as a   
   point to pick up fido traffic from somebody   
   else as a point, and didn't really want the ld downloads of   
   anything but certain echoes of particular interest to me.   
      
   But, were I mod in question I'd make it pretty explicit what sort of access   
   was permitted, and what wasn't.  YEs, some   
   folks might circumvent those restrictions, but most long   
   time Fido folks won't without good reason.  I told my local   
   boss node when I first started pointing off him and he was   
   last man standing for local FIdo bbs that I really wasn't   
   that interested, and that he was violating some standards of conduct.  HE did   
   ask permission from the nc for me to have   
   write access to the netwide sysop echo though.   
      
   Regards,   
              Richard   
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