REPLY: 1:261/38.0 8be20285   
   MSGID: 2:25/0@fidonet 659e0157   
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   TZUTC: 0000   
   TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8.4 (Linux-x86_64)   
   Hello Janis!   
      
   Tuesday January 09 2024 20:37, you wrote to me:   
      
    > Vince, obviously your system dropped the last 3 or 4 lines of the   
    > record I sent.   
      
    > I will send another one tonight.   
      
   OR your system dropped the missing lines as I have no reports foof errors   
   during your drop off.   
      
      
   Mind you that is not bullet proof.   
      
   Did you read the rest of the message I sent ?   
      
   Vince   
      
      
    >> ====================================================================   
    >> ========= * Forwarded by Vincent Coen (2:25/0) * Area : ELIST (ELIST   
    >> Conference) * From : Vincent Coen, 2:25/0 (Wednesday January 03 2024   
    >> 23:01) * To   : Janis Kracht * Subj : FILE_MOVERS EL230 Errors found   
    >> in MOD submission, see messages:   
    >> ====================================================================   
    >> ========= Hello Janis!   
      
    >> Wednesday January 03 2024 13:09, you wrote to me:   
      
    >>> Hi Vince,   
      
    >>> According to your robot, my submission of the update for   
    >>> FILE_MOVERS had an error as noted below:   
      
      
    >>>> EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:   
    >>>> EL233 Error GROUP not specified.   
      
    >>> Now, the listing _does_ have the GROUP keyword included:   
      
    >>> file:  FILE_MOVERS.ECO   
    >>> //   
    >>> SUBJ MOD-UPD   
    >>> TAG  FILE_MOVERS   
    >>> FROM Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com   
    >>> TITL File Echo Distribution   
    >>> LANG English   
    >>> DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place   
    >>> DESC where file distribution coordinators   
    >>> DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution   
    >>> DESC concerns, problems and solutions.   
    >>> ORIG 1:261/38   
    >>> MOD  Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com   
    >>> PASS 'MYOB-THIS-IS-NOT-THE-PASSWD'   
    >>> DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE   
    >>> REST /Real   
    >>> ORIG 1:261/38   
    >>> GATE NO   
    >>> GROUP FIDO   
    >>> ^^^^ right there above this line.   
      
    >>> Should I re-send the file ?  Is the elist program getting ornery?   
    >>> :)   
      
    >> Nope it is a valid rejection as far as I can see and here is what you   
    >> ACTUALLY sent :   
      
    >> SUBJ MOD-UPD   
    >> TAG  FILE_MOVERS   
    >> TITL File Echo Distribution   
    >> LANG English   
    >> DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place   
    >> DESC where file distribution coordinators   
    >> DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution   
    >> DESC concerns, problems and solutions.   
    >> ORIG 1:261/38   
    >> MOD  Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com   
    >> PASS ---- hidden ----   
    >> DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE   
    >> REST /Real   
    >> ORIG 1:261/38   
      
      
    >> So, No GROUP keyword ! (I have not checked for any other errors but   
    >> will assume that as none is reported that is the only one).   
      
      
    >> Now looking at the listings in BACKBONE.RPT, which I hope you have   
    >> the current copy of (from the monthly archive file ELST2401.ZIP from   
    >> file area ECHOLIST, I see :   
      
    >> --   
    >> TAGname: FILE_MOVERS                                  Group: FIDO   
    >> {Backbone}   
      
    >> TITLe:        File Echo Distribution   
      
    >> Lang:         ENGLISH   
      
    >> DESCription:   
    >> The File_Movers echo provides a place where file distribution   
    >> coordinators and HUBs can discuss distribution concerns, problems   
    >> and solutions.   
      
    >> Updated on:   2023/02/21   
    >> --   
      
    >> Note the date it was updated.  This shows that the echo expired a   
    >> long time ago and has been moved over to the BACKBONE so you would   
    >> not have been able to update it as far as I remember as you are no   
    >> longer the moderator as elistmaint has taken it over as happens with   
    >> all expired echo's.   
      
      
    >> The same will apply to any other echo that have expired for which a   
    >> moderator has not updated and the system auto assumes that they have   
    >> dropped it for what ever reason and it is preserved into the   
    >> backbone unless deleted because of zero traffic over 12 months and   
    >> for that I must admit I have been lax in not going over them to   
    >> compare with my system records of any postings.   
      
    >> It is somewhat time consuming and the space consumed in the data   
    >> files is small for such echos but there is no doubt a lot of dead   
    >> wood (no traffic).   
      
      
    >> Vincent   
      
    >> -!- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.8.4/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707   
    >> ! Origin: The Elist Maintainer (2:25/0)   
    >> ====================================================================   
    >> =========   
      
    >> Hello Janis!   
      
    >> See my response above.   
      
    >> Vincent   
      
      
      
   Vincent   
      
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