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   * Forwarded by Vincent Coen (2:25/0)   
   * Area : ELIST (ELIST Conference)   
   * From : Vincent Coen, 2:25/0 (Wednesday January 03 2024 23:01)   
   * To   : Janis Kracht   
   * Subj : FILE_MOVERS EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:   
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   Hello Janis!   
      
   Wednesday January 03 2024 13:09, you wrote to me:   
      
    > Hi Vince,   
      
    > According to your robot, my submission of the update for FILE_MOVERS   
    > had an error as noted below:   
      
      
    >> EL230 Errors found in MOD submission, see messages:   
    >> EL233 Error GROUP not specified.   
      
    > Now, the listing _does_ have the GROUP keyword included:   
      
    > file:  FILE_MOVERS.ECO   
    > //   
    > SUBJ MOD-UPD   
    > TAG  FILE_MOVERS   
    > FROM Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com   
    > TITL File Echo Distribution   
    > LANG English   
    > DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place   
    > DESC where file distribution coordinators   
    > DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution   
    > DESC concerns, problems and solutions.   
    > ORIG 1:261/38   
    > MOD  Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com   
    > PASS 'MYOB-THIS-IS-NOT-THE-PASSWD'   
    > DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE   
    > REST /Real   
    > ORIG 1:261/38   
    > GATE NO   
    > GROUP FIDO   
    > ^^^^ right there above this line.   
      
    > Should I re-send the file ?  Is the elist program getting ornery? :)   
      
   Nope it is a valid rejection as far as I can see and here is what you ACTUALLY   
   sent :   
      
   SUBJ MOD-UPD   
   TAG  FILE_MOVERS   
   TITL File Echo Distribution   
   LANG English   
   DESC The File_Movers echo provides a place   
   DESC where file distribution coordinators   
   DESC and HUBs can discuss distribution   
   DESC concerns, problems and solutions.   
   ORIG 1:261/38   
   MOD  Janis Kracht, 1:261/38, jmklou@gmail.com   
   PASS ---- hidden ----   
   DIST Z1,Z2,Z3,Z4-BACKBONE   
   REST /Real   
   ORIG 1:261/38   
      
      
   So, No GROUP keyword ! (I have not checked for any other errors but will    
   assume   
   that as none is reported that is the only one).   
      
      
   Now looking at the listings in BACKBONE.RPT, which I hope you have the current   
   copy of (from the monthly archive file ELST2401.ZIP from file area ECHOLIST, I   
   see :   
      
   --   
   TAGname: FILE_MOVERS                                  Group: FIDO   
                                                                {Backbone}   
      
     TITLe:        File Echo Distribution   
      
     Lang:         ENGLISH   
      
     DESCription:   
       The File_Movers echo provides a place where file distribution coordinators   
       and HUBs can discuss distribution concerns, problems and solutions.   
      
     Updated on:   2023/02/21   
   --   
      
   Note the date it was updated.  This shows that the echo expired a long time   
   ago and has been moved over to the BACKBONE so you would not have been able to   
   update it as far as I remember as you are no longer the moderator as    
   elistmaint   
   has taken it over as happens with all expired echo's.   
      
      
   The same will apply to any other echo that have expired for which a moderator   
   has not updated and the system auto assumes that they have dropped it for what   
   ever reason and it is preserved into the backbone unless deleted because of   
   zero traffic over 12 months and for that I must admit I have been lax in not   
   going over them to compare with my system records of any postings.   
      
   It is somewhat time consuming and the space consumed in the data files is    
   small   
   for such echos but there is no doubt a lot of dead wood (no traffic).   
      
      
   Vincent   
      
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   Hello Janis!   
      
   See my response above.   
      
   Vincent   
      
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