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   Vincent Coen to All   
   Distributed Processing   
   23 Mar 22 13:43:57   
   
   MSGID: 2:250/1@fidonet 623b3516   
   CHRS: UTF-8 2   
   TZUTC: 0000   
   TID: MBSE-FIDO 1.0.8 (Linux-x86_64)   
   * Originally in ELIST   
   * Crossposted in ECHOLIST   
      
   Hello All!   
      
   Once I have changed the elist program to and as a one off to input all echo   
   areas not currently in the elist system from the current backbone.na file with   
   the following characteristics :   
      
   1. Moderator as elistmaint   
   2. No DESCription details which any one can add if they know them by sending    
   in   
   a special file for each echo area with the content of the descriptions that is   
   multi line of up to 75 characters per line with a file name of :   
   aaa.bbb.DES   
      
   Where aaa = GROUP name i.e., FIDO   
   where bbb = Echotag name i.e., ELIST   
    and .DES is fixed to designate a Descriotion submission file.   
      
   These submission files will update a specific echo with a missing - yep,   
   description.   
      
   For this purpose the Moderator on record for each echo area serves only for    
   the   
   purpose of helping to maintain the active list of echo areas where hopefully   
   areas that have been inactive say for over 12 months can be removed which   
   allows system to check uplink connections for a given area to ensure that its   
   status of inactivity is not just down to no one area not being linked into the   
   echo distribution networks.  So that any echo that is inactive is just down to   
   no interest in it.   
      
   If this is the case a moderator can mark the echo down for deletion by   
   submitting a MOD-DEL file after which the echo is moved over to only appearing   
   on the monthly updated backbone.na file.   
   If these echos are likewise dead they can be removed by the current   
   elistmain-ainer having verified that their system is correctly connected for   
   that echo and likewise their uplink is also - so again it is down to no   
   interest for 12 months.   
      
   This hopefully, helps to keep the elist and backbone list always current with   
   minimum dead wood.   
      
      
   The .DES file will other than the naming format be the same as a .RUL file in   
   that they are kept separate from the main elist data file.   
      
   This file type will also be used for existing echo areas currently in the    
   elist   
   system that will be stored in a directory named after the GROUP name just the   
   same as the RUL files are stored in a directory called rules.   
      
   As the .RUL files are distributed in the monthly archive so will the .DES    
   files   
   be likewise for those that have a use for them, i.e., to import them into a    
   BBS   
   system which might require a minor modification if a bbs needs a description    
   in   
   their internal data files but not many seem to these days, but it is there if   
   they can use it.   
      
   All this is to support the bare data taken from the backbone.na file so that   
   this file and backbone.rpt is fully maintained and issued monthly.   
      
      
   I will soon be migrating all elist traffic to a Raspberry Pi 4 or 3 that will   
   have mbse running as 2:25/21 although I will be trying to re-register the   
   previously used address of 1:1/21 for the elistmain system that was previously   
   in existence for many years subject to Nick Andre Zone 1 co-ordinator so that   
   it is consistent across elist maintainers once the system is moved over to   
   another person.   
      
      
   This will be a standalone system that will accept submission files via your   
   mailers and do the processing before passing on traffic from areas ELIST,   
   ECHOLIST to the main system that in turn passes the traffic in the normal   
   manner and time periods.   
      
   To start helping with this process will EVERY ONE start sending the submission   
   files to 2:25/21.   
   If there is a change of address, I will advise here so that can be used ASAP.   
      
   This off loading of the work load such as it is to protect the elist system in   
   the event of my ill health or death.   
      
   By using a cheap computer system that can be used anywhere in the world will   
   allow a much younger sysop to act as elistmain by paying for the postage of    
   the   
   system (weight < 2 Kg) and a wee contribution towards its cost say 75   
   pounds,  which only requires a twin lead power cable with a sideways 8   
   connector, a Lan cable to a router that is also connected to your main system   
   (the Pi can work via Wi-Fi but a Lan cable is more reliable), and if needed a   
   HDMI cable to a monitor although the system can easily be headless via a   
   connection using ssh, to maintain and update the Linux software from time to   
   time (updates occur multi time per month but unlike Windows does not require a   
   reboot of the system except under very limited conditions).   
      
   There will be a need for the following to occur once the system has been   
   received by the new elistmaintainer :   
      
   1. Put in a change of details request to 1:0/0 (Nick Andre) to change the   
   elistmaint addressing info such as replace the INA contact details and   
   location,country info as needed.   
      
   2. Change the bbs MBSE to reflect any changes to send / receive traffic for   
   the two echo areas ELIST, ECHOLIST to your main bbs system i.e, its network   
   address.   
      
   3. Do the same for the monthly ELSTyymm.ZIP file that gets sent to your main   
   system via the file area ECHOLIST using auto hatching.   
      
   4. Follow the supplied instructions for making any simple changes to the elist   
   sources and recompile the program - again via a script to keep it simple.   
   [ I hope to minimise this to the point, it might not be necessary to have to   
   follow this step. ]   
      
   That is basically it, easy or that's what I am trying to ensure happens.   
      
   The changes to elist program to support the backbone.na file will take a few   
   weeks and I will update every one once this is completed but you will start to   
   see the newly added files within the monthly archive ELISTyymm.ZIP but as you   
   may well need to change your script or batch file that processes it's content,   
   you will need to know about it first :)   
      
      
   Please keep a copy of this message for your records as you will be effected by   
   these changes at some point.   
      
   Vincent   
      
   --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.24/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707   
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